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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 09:46:11
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"Now let me talk for just a moment about a movie. Remember Spartacus? It's about a slave uprising in ancient Rome, about 50 years before the birth of Christ. It's not particularly accurate historically, but there's a scene which, if you saw it, you have probably never forgotten. And probably would want never to forget.
Spartacus's army of slaves has been defeated by the Roman consul Crassus. The penalty awaiting every one of the former slaves is death by crucifixion. Crassus puts out the offer that all of them will be spared and returned to their lives as slaves if just one of them will identify the living body or the corpse of their leader, Spartacus. As Spartacus is about to stand to identify himself, the man next to him quickly shouts, "I'm Spartacus." Another stands up and cries out, "No, I'm Spartacus." And in a few short seconds every man is on his feet calling out, "I'm Spartacus!"
It may well be the most heroic scene in all of motion pictures. Maybe the most heroic scene in all of fiction.
Anyone who sees it hopes in his heart of hearts that if he had been there he would have done the same. Some even wish they had been there to do it.
There is nothing for any one of the slaves to gain by his cry. There is no profit in it. There is only honor.
Each of them would rather die than inform on the man who had led them to the only freedom — however short-lived — they had known. Each of them is willing to die in his place.
There are no illusions here. No hopes that Crassus will think, "Well, isn't that nice. They are all such honorable and loyal chaps. Let's just let them all go if they'll promise to go back to work." No. They will all be crucified. And they are. Not one of them faced with a cross says, "No, wait."
That's just how honor works sometimes. Its only value is to the man who has it, and only he can tell us what its value is to him. Sometimes it wins him glory; sometimes it wins him nothing but a quiet satisfaction that lets him shave in the morning; sometimes it gets him hanged." - Excerpted from I Am Spartacus by Ronald Neff
brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el, NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL. Ephesians 2:12 & 19 |
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BatKol
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Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 19:46:01
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quote: Originally posted by kevin
Thanks again Steven.
You are welcome. The NT is so crystal clear on this Kingdom topic that the only way one can fog it up is to claim that the very scriptures themselves are corrupt. Notice that is exactly the claim made against the NT by the starter of this thread. As has been proven time and again they make this claim because there is no way other around the many verses which sharply disprove their assertions. Add to that faux etymology without regard to context. The first rule to honest etymology is context. If one disregards the context of the words being used, one can spin all sorts of falsehoods from the buffet menu of definitions listed in a dictionary. As we have seen already - with out context - one can take the false statements concocted by the Jews to frame Christ and the apostles and actually make those claims appear to be true. With out the context one can twist the words of Paul - who was undoubtedly an EMPIRE Citizen who authored Romans 13 - to say that his very citizenship is a breach of the first commandment. There is no need to repeat all of the sections of scripture which argue against the theory put forth by oneisraelite. They are well documented here and anyone interested can simply go back and read them.
In closing, I have just received an excellent book which covers the historical topic concerning the early Christians and their relationship with the EMPIRE. It is solid gold. I will provide historical examples from it which detail the line drawn in the sand between the early Christians and EMPIRE all the way to recent history with the 'Catacomb Russian Christian resistance' who dealt with the atheist soviets who outlawed their faith and murdered millions. It lines up perfectly with what I have been saying all along on this very topic.
Jesus said: “I have chosen you out of the world”
1 John 2:16 - For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is "of the world". |
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kevin
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Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 21:36:44
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quote: Originally posted by oneisraelite
"Now let me talk for just a moment about a movie. Remember Spartacus? It's about a slave uprising in ancient Rome, about 50 years before the birth of Christ. It's not particularly accurate historically, but there's a scene which, if you saw it, you have probably never forgotten. And probably would want never to forget.
Spartacus's army of slaves has been defeated by the Roman consul Crassus. The penalty awaiting every one of the former slaves is death by crucifixion. Crassus puts out the offer that all of them will be spared and returned to their lives as slaves if just one of them will identify the living body or the corpse of their leader, Spartacus. As Spartacus is about to stand to identify himself, the man next to him quickly shouts, "I'm Spartacus." Another stands up and cries out, "No, I'm Spartacus." And in a few short seconds every man is on his feet calling out, "I'm Spartacus!"
It may well be the most heroic scene in all of motion pictures. Maybe the most heroic scene in all of fiction.
Anyone who sees it hopes in his heart of hearts that if he had been there he would have done the same. Some even wish they had been there to do it.
There is nothing for any one of the slaves to gain by his cry. There is no profit in it. There is only honor.
Each of them would rather die than inform on the man who had led them to the only freedom — however short-lived — they had known. Each of them is willing to die in his place.
There are no illusions here. No hopes that Crassus will think, "Well, isn't that nice. They are all such honorable and loyal chaps. Let's just let them all go if they'll promise to go back to work." No. They will all be crucified. And they are. Not one of them faced with a cross says, "No, wait."
That's just how honor works sometimes. Its only value is to the man who has it, and only he can tell us what its value is to him. Sometimes it wins him glory; sometimes it wins him nothing but a quiet satisfaction that lets him shave in the morning; sometimes it gets him hanged." - Excerpted from I Am Spartacus by Ronald Neff
brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el, NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL. Ephesians 2:12 & 19
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kevin
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Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 21:52:25
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[Steven, This whole thing has been goin on for years descrepencie and dis agreements over this and that, it is all just a symptom of something deeper, something missing, something lacking, something we are to fill up many Sons being revealed in many ways the beast rising out of the sea is no match for the stone that fell from heaven not a bunch of little white stones or pebbles built into a wall but a living stone that grows! a living stone, a stone that lives it will engulf everything and whatever is not stone will just unbe out of exsistance I give great respect to the ones like Oneisraleite and American and BatKol and others who stand for what they believe in the end we all stand, and we can look forward to the day when all things end in this timespace everything has a season a rising and a setting
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 12 Jan 2007 : 06:51:49
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Blackstone's commentary on "human laws" as opposed to "the law of nature" [and, thus, "nature's God"]:
"This law of nature, being coeval [1] with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other – It is binding over all the globe in all countries, and at all times; no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this: and such of them as are valid derive all their force, and all their authority, mediately[2] or immediately[3], from this original." - William Blackstone [Footnotes added] http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/blackstone/
Endnote:
[1] COEVAL, n. One of the same age; one who begins to exist at the same time. - Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language
[2]ME'DIATELY, adv. By means or by a secondary cause, acting between the first cause and the effect. (Ibid.)
[3] IMME'DIATELY, adv. Without the intervention of any other cause or event; opposed to mediately. (Ibid.)
brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el, NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL. Ephesians 2:12 & 19 |
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kevin
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Posted - 13 Jan 2007 : 00:39:43
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But thats what Blackstone said.. Right? thats intresting its really only binding unless i bind myself to it. mabye thats what HE meant when He said be careful what you bind and loosE?
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 13 Jan 2007 : 07:00:35
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Greetings and salutations, brother kevin:
Peace be to the house.
That excerpt from Blackstone's Commentaries is merely expounding on Acts 5:29, brother.
We ought to obey Yahuwah rather than men.
It is our humble opinion that if we don't "bind" ourselves to Him and His perfect Law of Liberty, which is also called the Law of Nature, by default we will be "bound" to something else and its imperfect law of bondage.
Yahu'shua [Joshusa] 22:5 But take diligent heed to do the commandment and the law, which Moses the servant of Yahuwah charged you, to love Yahuwah your 'Elohiym, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his Commandments, and to cleave (bind yourself) unto him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.
I think we will find that Yahu'shua, when he reappeared to reclaim his seat (sometimes referred to as "Moses' seat"), says the very same thing again in the New Covenant; keep the Commandments and serve Yahuwah with all your heart (mind) and with all your soul (life).
But, you are right to a degree, brother, we have been given the freedom to choose whom we will serve; we are given the semi-sovereign prerogative to "bind" ourselves to a worldly jurisdiction, if that is our desire.
Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
The interesting thing you will find about all this is that our punishment for not adhereing to the Law of Nature is self-inflicted, which is what is meant by, Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. If one consents to slavery, whether for himself or for others, he will become a slave.
Therefore thus saith Yahuwah; Ye have not hearkened unto me, in proclaiming liberty, every one to his brother, and every man to his neighbour: behold, I proclaim a liberty for you, saith Yahuwah, to the sword, to the pestilence, and to the famine; and I will make you to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
The "sword" we live by, is the "sword" we shall die by, so to speak.
"Perfect", ain't it?
Hallelu'Yah[1]!!
[1] Hallelujah Praise ye Jehovah [Yahuwah] , frequently rendered “Praise ye the Lord” - Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary
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Edited by - Oneisraelite on 13 Jan 2007 08:40:02 |
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kevin
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Posted - 13 Jan 2007 : 08:24:40
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Yes I see your point, All I am saying is We ought to obey Yahuwah rather than men I agree, so who needs blackstone or any other commentator to back that up? This whole idea of Quoting others to bolster a position is not needed. If our words are Yahuwahs words they need no backup. The time is drawing near when I may or may not be called before the maji-straights. They say I am HOME SCHOOLING I say I aint SCHOOLING at all. they want STANDARDS and TESTING, they insist we are HOMESCHOOLING we insist we aint SCHOOLING at all
we are a Family ,we all are learning, My Daughter is teaches me as much (mabye more) than I teach her. This is no game to me another slave standing up and saying I AM. apparently they do not like this, They will offer proof of their binding or (bonding) of me, what proof? we will see its their "JOB" to kill, my living is to die,
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 13 Jan 2007 : 08:49:19
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Greetings and salutations, brother kevin:
Peace be to the house.
You wrote: This whole idea of Quoting others to bolster a position is not needed. If our words are Yahuwahs words they need no backup.
We respond: We may just have to agree to disagree on this point, brother, for it is written, In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
You may find a pearl in the following essay, reportedly written in 1851, that may or may not help you.
http://www.voluntaryist.com/classics/ignore.php
brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el, NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL. Ephesians 2:12 & 19 |
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 13 Jan 2007 : 21:51:12
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More good reading. Here's an excerpt to whet your appetite.
"If there be such a principle as justice, or natural law, it is the principle, or law, that tells us what rights were given to every human being at his birth; what rights are, therefore, inherent in him as a human being, necessarily remain with him during life; and, however capable of being trampled upon, are incapable of being blotted out, extinguished, annihilated, or separated or eliminated from his nature as a human being, or deprived of their inherent authority or obligation.
On the other hand, if there be no such principle as justice, or natural law, then every human being came into the world utterly destitute of rights; and coming into the world destitute of rights, he must necessarily forever remain so. For if no one brings any rights with him into the world, clearly no one can ever have any rights of his own, or give any to another. And the consequence would be that mankind could never have any rights; and for them to talk of any such things as their rights, would be to talk of things that never had, never will have, and never can have any existence." - Natural Law, The Science of Justice by Lysander Spooner
Read the rest of it here. http://www.voluntaryist.com/classics/naturallaw.php
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 13 Jan 2007 : 23:21:59
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“…the whole Revolution [American Revolutionary War (1775-1783)] turned upon, asserted, and, in theory, established, the right of each and every man, at his discretion, to release himself from the support of the government under which he had lived. And this principle was asserted, not as a right peculiar to themselves, or to that time, or as applicable only to the government then existing; but as a universal right of all men, at all times, and under all circumstances.” – Excerpted from No Treason, by Lysander Spooner http://www.voluntaryist.com/classics/notreason.php
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Uncle Buck
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Posted - 14 Jan 2007 : 02:40:24
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Greetings brothers and sisters, peace be unto the house! Thankyou brother Robert: and sister Kathleen: for sharing your insights. Thankyou brother 'Batkol' for continuing to challenge your understanding, it is all healthy.
My understanding, is that the First Commandment is pretty clear on who is the ABSOLUTE RULER OF THE UNIVERSE (Yahuwah/God) and who is HIS (Yahuwah's) anointed King/Ruler/Prime Minister (Yahushua/Jesus the Christ) on earth in this age/eon.
As for Acts 5:29 it is referring to the First Commandment.
Interested in others' spin on John 15:12. I believe it fits in with the examples brother Robert has provided about obedience to the Creator and His Anointed One (Yahushua) and ones (the believers).
We are in honour if we lay down our life for a friends (I no longer call you servants but FRIENDS). Yahushua layed down his life for me! (Praise be to Yahuwah for enabling it; and praise Yahushua for his obedience). FRIENDS doesn't mean the bloke next door. It means PRINCES OF PEACE - YAHUWAH's peculiar people. It means defending the faith. It means doing what Yahushua did for me. I wouldn't do it for a non-believer, particularly one of another faith who hates Yahushua.
Please tell me BATKOL, are you prepared to die for your King/President/Mayor???
************************* If I have to be like him who is going to be like me? James 1:25 The Perfect Law of Liberty |
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 14 Jan 2007 : 08:52:49
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Greetings and salutations, brother Rick:
We hope this finds you and yours healthy, happy and prospering.
quote: Originally posted by Uncle Buck My understanding, is that the First Commandment is pretty clear on who is the ABSOLUTE RULER OF THE UNIVERSE (Yahuwah/God) and who is HIS (Yahuwah's) anointed King/Ruler/Prime Minister (Yahushua/Jesus the Christ) on earth in this age/eon. As for Acts 5:29 it is referring to the First Commandment.
Verily, verily! But this is admittedly a difficult concept to grasp.
Firstly, we see that the First Commandment applies to those whom He has brought out of "double straits", i.e. out of bondage.
Exodus 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying, 2 I am Jehovah [Yahuwah] thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of mitsrayim (double straits), out of the house of bondage.
Secondly, the First Commandment admits that there are "other gods", that is to say other 'elohiym [rulers/judges].
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before (above/against) me.
And, thirdly, by putting the above two concepts together, it states that only those whom He brings out of bondage shall have no other gods, i.e. 'elohiym (rulers/judges) above Him. Why? Because those who have not yet come out of bondage cannot possibly obey this, since their worldly rulers deem themselves above the true Supreme Being, even going so far as to forbid His Ten Commandments to be used in their schools and courtrooms.
Let us face the truth squarely, brothers and sisters, if you are still in bondage, your PRESIDENT is your highest and first magistrate (master), the true Creator, by whatever name you may wish to call Him, or It, is not! No man can serve two highest or first magistrates (masters), as it is written!
The Ten Commandments of Yahuwah is His Eternal Moral Law, they are graved in stone (permanent).
Acts 5:29, we note, says we "ought to"; i.e. it is the "right and proper" (moral) thing to do, for the creature to obey his Creator rather than men, which again implies that most of us cannot, or at least believe that we cannot ["You can't fight city hall!"], and therefore do not obey Yahuwah rather than (above) men. We only give the true Creator lip service while, in verity, obey and support those who wish to usurp the Creator's rightful office, those who have overthrown and prostrated the nations.
Sometime back we wrestled with the words un-alien-able/un-a-lien-able and in-alien-able/in-a-lien-able, if you will recall.
From the endnote of our October 29, 2006 post:
Or, is it possible that in both cases there are two different words, with different meanings, spelled exactly alike; un-a-lien-able (un-a'-leen-able), that which cannot be transferred and un-alien-able (un-alien-able), that which should not be separated, given away, or taken away, and in-a-lien-able (in-a'-leen-able), that which cannot be transferred, and in-alien-able (in-alien-able), that which should not be separated, given away, or taken away? We think that this answer is not only possible, but it is, in fact, highly probable. "...through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you..."
This is correct, we perceive. There are two gods/creators, one who creates beings with the breath of life with un-alien-able/in-alien-able rights, “Rights which can never be abridged because they are so fundamental”[1], while the other creates PERSONS, without the breath of life, with un-a'-leen-able/in-a'-leen-able rights, “Rights which are not capable of being surrendered or transferred without the consent of the one possessing such rights; e.g., freedom of speech or religion, due process, and equal protection of the laws”[2].
Did anyone notice that the second one pertains to 14th Amendment rights? "If ye were of the world, the world would love his own...', i.e. the "world" would give you un-a-lien-able rights.
And, did anyone pick up on the fact that the other are "god-given rights" and therefore are not even cabable of being abridged, i.e. they are not even cabable of being shortened, edited, condensed, reduced, or abbreviated[3], let alone taken away? '...but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you", i.e. it will utterly trample your "natural rights", your un-alien-able rights, which include, but are not limited to, the right to life, liberty and property.
Governments that are properly ordained follow "the law of nature and nature's God" and thus are not a threat to good works; governments that are not properly ordained do not obey "the law of nature and nature's God", and as a consequence are a threat to good works.
Endnotes:
[1] Black's Law Dictionary, Abridged Sixth Edition, page 1057
[2] Black's Law Dictionary, Abridged Sixth Edition, page 521
That's right, brothers and sisters, Black's sixth has two different definitions for the very same word nearly 500 pages apart and now, we believe, we know why!
[3] MicrosoftWord2000 synonyms for "abridged".
post script You wrote: We are in honour if we lay down our life for a friends I wouldn't do it for a non-believer, particularly one of another faith who hates Yahushua.
We respond: Knowing you the way we do, we would bet that you would, brother. You wouldn't be able to stop yourself from doing the "right" thing; after all, "if you were to be like them, who would be like you"?
brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el, NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL. Ephesians 2:12 & 19 |
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kevin
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Posted - 14 Jan 2007 : 11:39:24
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Well, This is no small thing, its day and night, life and death, blessing and cursing, the end of all debate. there aint no light at the end of some tunnel, just a stake on a hill. I don;t feel so well...... |
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 07:43:17
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Greetings and salutations, brother kevin:
Peace be unto the house.
You sound despondant, and for that we are sorry. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey...
It has, perhaps, never been an easy choice, brother.
And if it seem evil unto you to serve Yahuwah, choose you this day whom ye will serve... - Yahu'shua
How long halt ye between two opinions? if Yahuwah be 'Elohiym, follow him... - Eli'yahu
The maxim, "No man can serve two masters[G3962]" (supreme controllers), are not our words, brother, they are the words of our Wonderful Counsellor.
G2962 kurios Thayer Definition: 1) he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lord 1a) the possessor and disposer of a thing 1a1) the owner; one who has control of the person, the master 1a2) in the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperor...
If any believe that this maxim applies strictly to "God and mammon", they are not, in my opinion and with all due respect, thinking rationally (consonant with reason). They, of course, are just as free to have the contrary, and respectful, opinion that I am not thinking rationally (consonant with reason).
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kevin
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Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 19:38:27
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Robert, I appreciate your concern, but Im not despondent, just getting some things in order. I know who I serve , I had only one purpose for getting involved at this forum, the one I serve asked me to work to bring three of His sons together, I have served my purpose.
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 16 Jan 2007 : 06:49:19
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Greetings brother kevin:
Peace be unto the house.
I apologize for misunderstanding your post, brother. If it is your desire that I delete my misplaced response, I will do so, gladly.
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 16 Jan 2007 : 07:41:54
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UNALIENABLE RIGHTS
"If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renounciation. The right to freedom being the gift of God, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave." - Samuel Adams
All things lawful are mine, but all things are not expedient: all things lawful are mine, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 16 Jan 2007 : 09:31:36
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“We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom all men ought to be obedient...” -- Samuel Adams, attributed, upon signing the Declaration of Independence
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kevin
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Posted - 16 Jan 2007 : 21:40:23
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[quote]Originally posted by oneisraelite
Greetings brother kevin:
Peace be unto the house.
I apologize for misunderstanding your post, brother. If it is your desire that I delete my misplaced response, I will do so, gladly.
Oh Robert!! Never let it be said, do not delete, all is as it should be, But thank you for the love though ! it s good fer brethers ta dwell in unity, I dont mean ta be so meloncholy, sometimes im melodramatic too. it does tick me off to be here on the other side of the gulf, but the deal is, got five offspring and a woman here, who also have been led into a ditch wit me, It aint there fault, I can't just leave em, and yeah man thats no joke, Ive chosen my family .... and so I most likely wont ever be able to join you. it this timezone anyway. and in the end ,its just the same ole story, been goin on fer thousands of times, like the son in the pigpen,or the rich young ruler,a theif on a cross,all the bad stuff ya read about in them scriptures... yeah thats me. Total screw up! wouldn't know a statute from a code iffin i was ta trip over it ( no punt intended:)). all i can say is thanks be to the God Yahuwah in Christ(not his last name), by his stripes I AM healed,, (not like a majik show down at the local temple)but daily He gives me stripes and in each stripe Is healing,by his Rod Im corrected, not from some future or past thing but in the present, He is ever present,when i desire to do evil He is right there with me,then another stripe,this salvation aint an event, not a static thing, its a going on ,a happening, a living,wow what a delusion i'm under , but even darkness is light. and though i die ,i live, yet not i but Christ(not his last name)living in me,how can his be? a man who is a slave yet free? so no brother no way dont delete anything, there are no deletions, my kids do that sometimes playing checkers when theY dont like the outcome of the move, hehehe ya know.... Do over ! DO OVER!! King me,[C(/B)]
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