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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  09:20:31  Show Profile
Greetings and salutations, brother Michael:

Peace be unto the house.

We should probably consider tempering that word "all" with Revelation 20:4 (RNV)...

And I saw thrones and they sat on them and judgment was committed to them. Then the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Yahushua and for the word of Yahuwah, who had not worshipped the beast or his image and had not received the mark (badge of servitude) on their foreheads or on their hands, and they lived and reigned with the Anointed for a thousand years.

...since we see from this that there are evidently some who refuse to take the mark, i.e. the badge of servitude, then "all" simply cannot mean, "there are no exceptions". There are some, according to the above verse of Scripture, it would seem, who will face decapitation rather than take the mark of another master.


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 16 Dec 2006 :  06:58:48  Show Profile
Greetings and salutations, once more, brother Michael:

Peace be unto the house.

We found this corroborating evidence under the heading ALL in Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language.

"This word, not only in popular language, but in the scriptures, often signifies, indefinitely, a large portion or number, or a great part. Thus, all the cattle in Egypt died; all Judea and all the region round about Jordan; all men held John as a prophet; are not to be understood in a literal sense, but as including a large part or very great numbers." [Emphasis added]


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 16 Dec 2006 :  08:53:35  Show Profile
Greetings and salutations:

Peace be unto the house.

As a possible addendum to our possible understanding of verse three of Psalm two (page 12 of this thread)...

Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

....to be instructing Yahuwah's anointed ones to do these things, brother Rick (Uncle Buck) has sent us the following verse of the Scripture.

Psalm 129:4 Yahuwah is righteous: he hath cut asunder the cords of the wicked.

And, while we are at Psalm 129, it ends with a verse which we have, up to recently, misunderstood. (Our thanks to brother Buck Castelberry, scribe of the Restored Names Version, for straightening this out for us.)

{8} Neither let those who pass by them say, "The blessing of Yahuwah be upon you. We bless you in the name of Yahuwah!"

This is evidently where brother Yahu'hanan [John] got the following concept...

2Yahu'hanan [John] 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed [success[1]]: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed [success] is partaker of his evil deeds.

Endnotes:
[1]
GOD SPEED n. Good speed, that is, success. 2 John 10 - Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 17 Dec 2006 :  08:22:45  Show Profile
Food for thought...

"Except for the word Jehovah, I have found the name of he Supreme Being to be usually taken from his supremacy or power, and to be equivalent to lord or ruler..." - Excerpted from the etymology of the word GOD in Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language.

LORD, n. 1. A master... (Ibid.)

M`ASTER, n. [L. magister, compounded of the root of magis, major, greater.] 1. A man who rules, governs or directs either men or business. (Ibid.)

RU'LER, n. 1. One that governs...any one that exercises supreme power over others. 2. One that makes or executes laws in a limited or free government. Thus legislators and magistrates are called rulers. (Ibid.)


Most of us can see from this that the words god, lord, master and ruler are thus, "equivalent".

EQUIV'ALENT, a. ...3. Of the same import or meaning. (Ibid.)

If Francis Brown, Samuel Rolles Driver and Charles Augustus Briggs, co-authors of A Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament (1891-1905), commonly known as BDB, are correct in stating that the number one meaning of 'elohiym [H430] is "rulers, judges", and they further state that 'elohiym [H430] is the "plural of H433", 'eloahh, then what should the number one meaning of the singular, 'eloahh, be? We think rationally, that it would mean, "ruler, judge".

And, if both they and James Strong agree that 'eloahh is "probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410", 'el, then in all likelihood, it probably is.

Again, if they both tell us that 'el [H410] is "shortened from H352", 'ayil, and Strong's Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary tells us that this word means, "specifically a chief (politically)" and BDB tells us, at meaning number three, it means "strong man, leader, chief", then it probably does.

It should now be perfectly clear, to most of us, why we ought to obey Yahuwah rather than men, i.e. thou shalt have no other 'elohiym above me and why no man can serve two masters.

Each of us must decide, for ourselves, whether or not our earthly 'elohiym (rulers, judges) are placing themselves above, or against, the one true 'Elohiym.

The Hebrew kings did not rule in their own right, nor in name of the people who had chosen them, but partly as servants and partly as representatives of Jehovah, the true King of Israel.


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Posted - 20 Dec 2006 :  12:51:48  Show Profile
It is not the issue if the rulers place themselves above God but rather if we place the rulers above God. Daniel is a perfect example of one who followed all of Babylon's rules to the point where his jealous opponents had to invent a law which directly conflicted with God's law. They knew that Daniel would not break the law of his God so they made it manditory that all must bow to a golden figurine. Had Daniel of complied with that new law then he would have broken the first commandment. It is important to note that up until that point Daniel was a high ranking official in Babylon with no conflict with God's law. The Bible is full of examples in both the OT and the NT where righteous people were subject to their governments with no conflict in breaking God's law. However, if we are to follow oneisraelite's theory on "elohim" - which has been proven in many ways to NOT line up with scripture - then we have Paul breaking the first commandment. We have Joseph and Mary breaking the first commandment. We have Daniel breaking the first commandment. The list goes on.

Also concerning the usage of the word "elohim".

Just think with me for a second. It's all about context. If lower case god/elohim meant a living, physical 'ruler or judge' in the verses below, think how wacky these verses would be:

Exodus 12:17 - Thou shalt make thee no moltenH4541 godsH430.

and this:

Exodus 20:23 - Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.

or this about the golden calf 'god':

Exodus 32:31 - And Moses returned unto YHWH, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have madeH6213 them godsH430 of gold.

How about this?

Genesis 31:30-34 - And now, though thou wouldest needs be gone, because thou sore longedst after thy father’s house, yet wherefore hast thou stolen my gods?31 And Jacob answered and said to Laban, Because I was afraid: for I said, Peradventure thou wouldest take by force thy daughters from me. 32With whomsoever thou findest thy gods, let him not live: before our brethren discern thou what is thine with me, and take it to thee. For Jacob knew not that Rachel had stolen them. 33And Laban went into Jacob’s tent, and into Leah’s tent, and into the two maidservants’ tents; but he found them not. Then went he out of Leah’s tent, and entered into Rachel’s tent. 34Now Rachel had taken the images, and put them in the camel’s furniture, and sat upon them. And Laban searched all the tent, but found them not. 35And she said to her father, Let it not displease my lord that I cannot rise up before thee; for the custom of women is upon me. And he searched, but found not the images.

Can you imagine Rachel taking Laban's 'earthly rulers or judges' and putting them on the camel and sitting on them? Surely the context and common sense tells us that 'gods' can most definately mean the imaginary fake 'gods' we find through out the bible!

or this one:

1 Kings 11:4 - For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other godsH430: and his heart was not perfect with YHWH his God, as was the heart of David his father. 5For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddessH430 of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. ..... 8And likewise did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their godsH430.

In this story above Solomon is already king of the Israelites with his rule firmly in place. 'gods' in this verse does not mean a 'flesh and blood' ruler or judge.

Also this which Jeroboam did:

1 kings 12 28: Whereupon the king took counsel, and madeH6213 two calves of gold, and said unto them, It is too much for you to go up to Jerusalem: behold thy godsH430, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. 29And he set the one in Bethel, and the other put he in Dan. 30And this thing became a sin: for the people went to worship before the one, even unto Dan.

Note that both Jeroboam and Solomon were already Israelite kings when these imaginary idol/gods were worshiped. These gods were not men acting as judges or rulers like in Ps 82 but rather false, imaginary gods like the golden calf god of Exodus 32. Again, it is all about the context that tells us what type of god we are dealing with. Both of these kings broke the first and second commandment. And as was promised in Deut 28, Israel was banished from the holy land and scattered amongst the nations.

On the "mark of the beast". If the SS# or DL# was a mark of the beast why are we able to buy and sell no problem without them?

For all of the years we have been asking the promoters of this 'SS,DL as mark' theory we have never received ONE reply to that simple question. It's a fair and logical question, don't you think?




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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 20 Dec 2006 :  18:18:41  Show Profile
Any George Gordon fans here?

“…we practice idolatry by signing contracts with these foreign and alien gods that we call government.” – George Gordon


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  07:18:36  Show Profile
"Except for the word Jehovah, I have found the name of he Supreme Being to be usually taken from his supremacy or power, and to be equivalent to lord or ruler..." - Excerpted from the etymology of the word GOD in Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language.

LORD, n. 1. A master; a person possessing supreme power and authority; a ruler; a governor.

...whose God is their belly...is a figure of speech, which translates as, "whose ruler, or master, is their own desire".

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey,
his servants ye are to whom ye obey...


We ought to obey Yahuwah rather than men.

brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 23 Dec 2006 :  04:59:57  Show Profile
Greetings and salutations, brothers and sisters:

Peace be unto the house.

A fellowcitizen of the Kingdom just sent us a christ-mass and new years greeting, so we thought we'd share with you our response (along with some later additions) to such things when received from a brother.

Greetings and salutations in the name of our King, brother ******:

Peace be unto the house.

We thank you for thinking of us.

At the risk of offending you, dear brother, which we assure you is not our intent, we do not celebrate the holydays of nations other than our own. We are fellowcitizens of the commonwealth of Yisra’el [the princes (-esses) of ‘El], as it is written (See Ephesians 2:12 & 19), which has no relation whatsoever to the man-made STATE OF ISRAEL.

Hear ye the word which Yahuwah speaketh unto you, O house of Yisra'el: Thus saith Yahuwah, Learn not the way of the nations... For the customs of the people are vain... - Yirm'yahu [Jeremiah] 10:1, 2a & 3a

He has made us sovereigns and consecrated[1] us (sets us apart) unto Yahuwah (Rev. 1:6; 5:10), we are a royal priesthood (1Peter 2:9). This "royal priesthood" is called the Order of Melchizedek (sovereign de jure), as such we do not have "beginning of days" [D.O.B.’s], thus we are unable to celebrate "birthdays", his or ours.

Hebrews 7:3 Without father (unrecorded paternity), without mother (unknown maternity), without descent (unregistered as to birth), having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of Yahuwah; abideth a priest continually. [Strong’s definitions supplied, emphasis added]

And, our New Year’s Day is Abib one, which is on or about March 21st.

Exodus 13:4 This day came ye out in the month Abib[2].

Exodus 12:2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.

Yahuwah willing, we will wish you an Happy New Year when it rolls around.

Endnotes:

[1]
The word priests is translated from G2409 hiereus Thayer Definition: …2) metaphorically of Christians <sic>, because, purified by the blood of Christ <sic> and brought into close intercourse with God <sic>, they devote their life to him alone and to Christ <sic>

We are “separated from common secular uses and consecrated to Yahuwah and his service”, which is the very definition of sacred, as you no doubt know.
"Secular power is that which superintends and governs the temporal affairs of men, the civil or political power; and is contradistinguished from spiritual or ecclsiastical power."

H24
abiyb
BDB Definition:
1) fresh, young barley ears, barley
2) month of ear-forming, of greening of crop, of growing green Abib, month of exodus and passover (March or April)
[Emphasis added]

brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisra'el

Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me from all people: for all the earth is mine: and ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an set apart nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Yisra'el. - Exodus 19:5-6

For thou art an holy people unto Yahuwah thy 'Elohiym, and Yahuwah hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, from all the nations that are upon the earth. - Deuteronomy 14:2

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people... - Titus 2:14

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people... - 1Peter 2:9

PECU'LIAR, a. [L. peculiaris, from peculium, one's own property, from pecus, cattle.] 1. Appropriate; belonging to a person and to him only. 4. Belonging to a nation, system or other thing, and not to others. - Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 28 Dec 2006 :  07:44:24  Show Profile
Please note that Yahuwah instructed (Exo 13:4) that we use the Ibriy [Hebrew] name Abib for the first month of His revolution [year] and not the Babylonian name Nisan.

It would seem that our brother, Yahudah [Judah], brought out, of the Babylonian captivity, some strange words and customs ["ineffable name doctrine", for one[1]].

H5212
niysan
nee-sawn'
Probably of foreign origin... - Strong's Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary


Nisan
ETYMOLOGY: Hebrew nisn, from Akkadian nisnu, the first month in the Babylonian calendar (corresponding to parts of March and April)... - The 2000 American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition


As did our ancient counterparts, who adopted strange words and customs, Easter being a great example of both, from the Romans.

Easter
Originally a Saxon word (Eostre), denoting a goddess of the Saxons, in honour of whom sacrifices were offered about the time of the Passover. ... When the Authorized Version (1611) was formed, the word “passover” was used in all passages in which this word pascha occurred, except in Act_12:4. In the Revised Version the proper word, “passover,” is always used. - James Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary


"The origin of Easter involves the birth of Semiramis' illegitimate son, Tammuz. Somehow, Semiramis convinced the people that Tammuz was actually Nimrod reborn. Since people had been looking for the promised savior since the beginning of mankind (see Genesis 3:15), they were persuaded by Semiramis to believe that Tammuz was that savior, even that he had been supernaturally conceived. Before long, in addition to worshipping Tammuz (or Nimrod reborn), the people also worshipped Semiramis herself as the goddess of fertility. In other cultures, she has been called Ishtar, Ashtur and yes, Easter." - Origin of Easter - Its Pagan Roots

Tammuz
VARIANT FORMS: Thammuz
NOUN: The tenth month of the year in the Jewish calendar. - - The 2000 American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition


Now, why on earth would the children of Yahudah [Judah] name a month after "Semiramis' illegitimate son"? The short answer is, they didn't, they simply brought the Babylonian calendar, along with virtually all of its signs, out with them.

Semiramis was believed to be the "goddess of fertility" hence the Romish christians celebrate it with images of rabbits, which are known to reproduce very rapidly, and Ishtar's eggs, or in the more modern vernacular, Easter eggs.

So we hope you will forgive us if, in the spring, we choose not to celebrate "Ishtar", or "Easter", also.

And what is the supposed birth day of Semiramis' illegitimate son, Tammuz? Some of you may have already guessed the answer!

"Thousands of years before Jesus<sic> was born, the heathen in every country observed December 25 as the birthday of a god who was called the sun god. Semiramis, the widow of Nimrod, was his mother. She claimed to be the queen of heaven. And she had a son who was supposed to have been born on December 25; his name was Tammuz.
According to all the heathen religions of that time, Tammuz had a miraculous birth; and for centuries his birthday was celebrated with feasts, revelry, and drunken orgies. The heathen celebrated Tammuz's birthday according to the very example he set for them. He was the world's greatest lover of women, strong drink, dirty jokes, and other sensual fun. It is said that he loved everybody and everybody loved him. And it was December 25 that all the pagan religions celebrated the birthday of Tammuz, the sun god.
" - Should Christians Celebrate Christmas by Charles Halff at http://www.sovereigngrace.net/should.htm

Endnotes:
[1]
“…the true pronunciation of devine names was carefully hidden from the uninitiated multitudes." - Religion of the Ancient Babylonians by A.H. Sayce, page 4


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 30 Dec 2006 :  09:07:54  Show Profile
Speak thou also unto the children ["subjects, nation"] of Yisra’el, saying, Verily my shabbats ye shall keep: for it is a sign [H226] between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am Yahuwah that doth sanctify [H6942] you. - Exodus 31:13

H226
'oth
BDB Definition:
1) sign, signal
1a) a distinguishing mark
1b) banner
1c) remembrance
1d) miraculous sign
1e) omen
1f) warning
2) token, ensign, standard, miracle, proof


SIG'NATURE, n. [L. signo, to sign.]
1. A sign
3. A mark for proof… - Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language


H6942
qadash
BDB Definition:
1) to consecrate, sanctify, prepare, dedicate, be hallowed, be holy, be sanctified, be separate


Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith Yahuwah, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith Yahuwah Almighty.

Keeping His Shabbats is the sign, or mark for proof, between Yahuwah and us, that we are Yisra’el, i.e. sovereigns of ‘El, and are dedicated to Him alone, i.e. “given wholly to” Him and none other, that is to say it is the proof that we are His peculiar people.

Peculiar
As used in the phrase “peculiar people” in 1Pe_2:9, is derived from the Lat. peculium, and denotes, as rendered in the Revised Version (“a people for God's own possession”), a special possession or property. The church
<sic> is thepropertyof God, hispurchased possession” (Eph_1:14; R.V., “God's own possession”). – Easton’s 1897 Bible Dictionary

PECU'LIAR, a. [L. peculiaris, from peculium, one's own property, from pecus, cattle.]
1. Appropriate; belonging to a person and to him only.
4. Belonging to a nation, system or other thing, and not to others. - Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language


It is our signature "on the dotted line", so to speak, that we belong to Him, and Him only!


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Oneisraelite
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Greetings and salutations, brothers and sisters:

Peace be unto the house.

Just sent this off and thought some of you might be interested. PM (private message) us if you are, and Yahuwah willing, we will keep you posted on our progress.


Greetings and salutations in the name of Yahushua, brothers and sisters:

Peace be unto the house.

We are brother Robert, sister Kathleen, and brother Kevin: of the house of Yisra’el.

Approximately seven years ago we became dead, with the Messiah, from the rudiments of the world and in such condition [civilly dead] are not subject to the ordinances [statutes] after the commandments and doctrines of men[1]. We do not profess or pledge allegiance to any secular government(s). We are fellowcitizens of the commonwealth of Yisra’el, as it is written[2]. Our Supreme Sovereign is Yahuwah (yhwh), and the Anointed Prime Minister [High Priest] of our government[3] is Yahu’shua[4], the Nazirite. We have lived these seven years with no marks of servitude of any species from any secular government[5]; we are totally dependent upon the generosity of our Supreme Sovereign, Yahuwah, the sole Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and all that in them is[6], who provides for us both directly and indirectly[7].

While perusing your wonderful website we read the following: "...we will issue...specialty ID by request. We prefer to understand the reasons why a member requests these types of identification from us, and we also attempt to ensure that the requesting member fully comprehends the responsibilities associated with carrying or producing any of them before delivery."

As head of this house I feel that it might make things easier for some of us if we had some kind of identification declaring who we are and whom we are subject to.

With that in mind, we would like to know if we design an identification card in conformity with, what we believe to be Yahuwah's specifications, could you, and would you, produce it for us. We are more than willing to pay a fair and equitable price for this service, since it has been written, the laborer is worthy of his hire.

We thank you in advance for your time and attention to this matter and for all your efforts on behalf of His Kingdom.

References:
[1]
Colossians 2:20-22
[2] Ephesians 2:12 & 19
[3] Yasha’yahu [Isaiah] 9:6-7
[4] 1Corinthians 11:3
[5] No secular governmental benefits and/or privileges, which require badges of servitude (charagma) to obtain.
[6] Exodus 20:11; Acts 4:24, and etc.
O Yahuwah ‘Elohiym (God = Ruler, Judge) of Yisra’el, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the ‘Elohiym (Ruler, Judge), even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.
JUDGE, n. …2. The Supreme Being. Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? Gen 18. …5. In the history of Israel, a chief magistrate, with civil and military powers. – Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language
[7] And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

Yahuwah is our Judge, Yahuwah is our Lawgiver, Yahuwah is our King
Yasha'yahu [Isaiah] 33:22

brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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For those who are interested, here is something else we picked up at the NCOY (Natural Congregation of Yahweh) website. [Emphasis added]


In 1990, Robert James Fox, was arrested in Dallas County, Texas for allegedly pretending to be a foreign diplomat when he was stopped for a traffic violation. Fox displayed a passport from the "Kingdom of Israel." Fox denied being a citizen of any worldly country or having allegiance to any political entity.

Fox was later indicted for possessing a falsely made passport and pretending to be a diplomat. In answering the charges, Fox stated: "I am a native born American and a stranger and sojourner in the land of my birth. I am not now nor have I ever been a citizen of the United States. I created the Kingdom of Israel passport as a travel document and as a means of identifying myself and it is evidence of my declaration of my allegiance to the Creator of the Universe. I deny that the passport is forged, counterfeited or falsely made. It is a genuine Kingdom of Israel passport and I have made no attempt to impersonate myself, I am myself."

The United States District Court dismissed the charges against Fox. The Court found no congressional intent to make a substantive offense related to documents which they called "homemade," and not represented as being issued by any "real government," foreign or otherwise.

"Congress did not intend to criminalize possession of foreign or bogus passports when it amended Section 1546, but rather restricted the criminal sanction to immigration-related documents issued by the United States."

In other words, if the document did not purport to be issued by an officer of the United States, the federal statutes did not apply. (U.S. v. FOX 766 F.Supp. 569 (N.D.Tex. 1991))

The Court denied the Kingdom of Israel and called it a "nonexistent political entity." The Court used such language as "homemade" and "bogus" to cause disbelief in our Kingdom. They do not recognize God's nation, which is our perpetual struggle. As is recorded in the scripture, "The lawyers have rejected God's purpose for themselves, not having been baptized." (Luke 7:30)



We have validated that such a case exists but have not read it as of this posting. However, if his statement, which is bolded in the above account, is true, we doff our hats to brother Robert James Fox!

...and another shall subscribe with his hand unto Yahuwah,
and surname himself by the name of Yisra'el
.

brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Posted - 01 Jan 2007 :  09:01:29  Show Profile
The Court denied the Kingdom of Israel and called it a "nonexistent political entity."

Excuse you, your DISHONOUR???

1Samau’el 24:20 And now, behold, I know well that thou shalt surely be king, and that the kingdom of Israel shall be established in thine hand.

Yahu’hanan [John] 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi [my master], thou art the Son of Yahuwah; thou art the King of Israel.

Yahu’hanan [John] 12:12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Yahu'shua was coming to Yerusalem, 13 took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of Yahuwah.


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 :  08:12:47  Show Profile
This would probably be an opportune moment to post this once more...

We're a secular Country, by our constitution.” – BILLY GRAHAM speaking of the UNITED STATES in an interview with DAVID FROST on May 30, 1997


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
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Ephesians 2:12 & 19
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 :  08:37:23  Show Profile
brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

Israeli (iz ra'le) n. [[ModHeb yisraeli < Heb: see prec..]] a native or inhabitant of modern Israel

Israelite (iz're a lite, -ra-) n. [[ME < LL(Ec) Israelita < Gr Israelites]] a member of the people of ancient Israel or their descendants


Source: Webster's 1988 New World Dictionary of American English, Third College Edition, page 717

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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 :  09:03:22  Show Profile
Why I Refuse to be Numbered
by Anonymous
[Scripture references added by oneisraelite]

Give a horse to him who tells the truth.
He'll need it to escape on!
Persian proverb

Counting by governments has been going on for many centuries. [See 2Sam. 24:10; 1Ch. 21:17] However, it is only in recent decades that individuals in the United States have been faced with being given a government number. One historian of the public health movement observed that it was not until the federal government began disbursing Social Security checks that there was any financial incentive to have a state-issued birth certificate and federally-issued number. (1) Under the Social Security Administration rules it became important to be able to prove when you were legally entitled to receive benefits. It was not until the early 1960s that federal tax returns were required to carry an identification number. The point is that as citizen-numbering has evolved, the government has used the carrot and stick approach: get a number — receive government largess; refuse a number — be penalized and be ineligible to receive government benefits; refuse a number — be excluded from many activities which may only be described as government-granted privileges (issuance of a driver's license, access to licensed-physician medical care, access to state and federally-chartered bank services, etc.). To the normal, obedient citizen receiving a number is as innocuous and innocent as being inoculated against certain diseases at birth. It also automatically puts each and every productive citizen into the position of being tracked and spied upon as the government makes sure that the citizen pays his or her taxes.

I refuse to be numbered because I want no part of paying taxes or receiving any of the benefits that government bestows. I want to be responsible for myself and my family. America was built on that attitude and will survive only as long as that attitude persists. It is impossible in the nature of things, as described by the law of the conservation of energy, for more energy to come out of a social system than goes in. Someone has to produce goods and services, in order for there to be goods and services to be distributed. History is replete with examples of economic systems dying when there is no longer enough incentive for the producers to produce any more than they need for their bare survival. Although government bureaucrats may assume that goods and services automatically replicate themselves, like fruit on a tree, I assure them that the tree will eventually wither and die if it is mistreated or abused. The high standard of living which Americans enjoy will disappear if the economic inputs of the producers are not encouraged.

Although we have been taught that the whole purpose of government is to protect us from criminals and foreign invaders, in reality the purpose of government is to conquer and control us. There are benefits to be found in wide-spread social cooperation and the social division of labor, but benefits can only arise if trade and exchange are voluntary. By the very nature of things, if someone must be forced to trade or exchange with me (or I with them) it must be obvious that they (or I) do not see enough advantage to the trade to willingly engage in it. This analysis applies as much to groups that provide security from criminals and foreign invaders as it does to buying food at the store or buying shoes for your children. Government is the only organization in our society that regularly and legitimately obtains its money from compulsory levies — what it euphemistically describes as taxes. What happens to those who refuse to pay their taxes? Their bodies are put in prison or their property is seized by the government, or both. As much as the government tries to disguise it, taxation is robbery and violates the common sensical and moral dictum against stealing. (If everyone stole, eventually there would be nothing left to steal.)

The underlying premise of government taxation is the idea that you and your property belong to the State. You are its slave. Whatever the government allows you to keep is simply a result of its generosity. [See Luke 22:25] What you produce is not yours by right, but by sufferance of the government. I do not want to be a slave; nor do I want to participate in a social system which enslaves others. I do not want to give my sanction to government. I do not want to support any coercive institution. I do not want to steal or be stolen from. [See Ex. 20:15; Deu. 5:19; Mat. 19:18; Rom. 13:9] I do not want to put others in jail for refusing to trade with me; nor do I want others to put me in jail for refusing to trade with them. Stealing (taxes) and coercion are not activities that lead to social harmony or prosperity. They are not activities that can be universalized. My objection to government (however good it may appear, or however many benefits it may distribute — which illusion can only be maintained by refusing to consider how much property it has first stolen, for government has nothing of its own) is to its coercive nature. I object to the compulsory manner in which government operates — regardless of how beneficial it appears — regardless of how necessary it considers itself — regardless of how many people embrace it. If government is so good, let it prove itself on the free and open market; let it depart from the coercive arena in which it now operates.

It might be argued that I consent to be numbered in many voluntary transactions. Every receipt I receive from Wal-Mart has a transaction number; every insurance policy has a contract number. While that is true, it ignores the main point of my objection to government numbering. I am not Wal-Mart's slave; I am not Hartford Insurance's slave. I may or may not choose to trade with them. I may or may not use a number to identify myself to them; but I do not have that option when it comes to dealing with the government. Slavemasters desire to control everything they can and numbering systems which allow no activity to be untaxed, unrecorded, or unnoticed are important to their success in controlling their slaves and expropriating their property.

It should be more than obvious now: I refuse to be numbered because I refuse to accept the badge of slavery. To be a number is to be a slave. I refuse to be a slave.

Footnote:
1) "The national Social Security Act proved to be a great stimulus to accurate birth certification. Many people never considered a birth certificate to be of any importance until old age assistance, unemployment insurance, and other ramifications of the Social Security Act demonstrated to them that it was necessary to have this official proof of their existence." Wilson G. Smillie, Public Health Administration in The United States (3rd ed.), 1947, p. 191.


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisar'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19

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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 :  09:37:03  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by BatKol

It is not the issue if the rulers place themselves above God but rather if we place the rulers above God. On the "mark of the beast". If the SS# or DL# was a mark of the beast why are we able to buy and sell no problem without them?

For all of the years we have been asking the promoters of this 'SS,DL as mark' theory we have never received ONE reply to that simple question. It's a fair and logical question, don't you think?


Well now that does sure seem rational,
those sss numbers and dl numbers are more like inventory numbers thats fine they are only taking inventory and they think that the whole world is deluded it may be. but when push comes to shove the Daniels will be re vealed.
It matters nothing to me what some other being labels me as ,I know I AM.






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Posted - 09 Jan 2007 :  18:08:15  Show Profile
quote:


quote:
Originally posted by BatKol

It is not the issue if the rulers place themselves above God but rather if we place the rulers above God. On the "mark of the beast". If the SS# or DL# was a mark of the beast why are we able to buy and sell no problem without them?

For all of the years we have been asking the promoters of this 'SS,DL as mark' theory we have never received ONE reply to that simple question. It's a fair and logical question, don't you think?



Well now that does sure seem rational,
those sss numbers and dl numbers are more like inventory numbers thats fine they are only taking inventory and they think that the whole world is deluded it may be. but when push comes to shove the Daniels will be re vealed.
It matters nothing to me what some other being labels me as ,I know I AM



That the question is rational is the biggest problem for my detractors.

Bottom line is one can easily buy or sell without SS#'s or DL#'s.

quote:
Counting by governments has been going on for many centuries. [See 2Sam. 24:10; 1Ch. 21:17]


Indeed. Here's Joseph (whom the NT calls a "just man") and Mary
going to get registered with the ROMAN EMPIRE.

Luke 2:1 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. 2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria. 3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city. 4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David, 5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed *wife, who was with child.


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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 :  22:10:44  Show Profile
Thanks again Steven.
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Yasha'yahu 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful Counsellor, The Mighty 'el, The Everlasting Chief, the Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of Dawid, and upon his kingdom, to errect it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from this time even unto eternity.

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NOT the man-made, fictional STATE OF ISRAEL.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19
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