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David Merrill
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Posted - 04 Jan 2005 : 21:16:49
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That is why I quoted you the first time you did it:quote: HaShem gives the ecclesia standing in judicio meeting the rules of evidence notoriously.
If you intend to make this your slogan, you should really check the grammar and your use of the word notorious.
But enough on that. It is becoming redundant and I have an outline to fill. This really is a lot of writing, you know.
If this Topic is not up to your standards, you would move along already. I apologized for misquoting you. It was a mistake. Otherwise you have become some kind of self-appointed protectorate for the eyes and ears of the other readers.
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Mary Magdalene and Jesus' son(s) fled Israel with many Jews, likely by ship across the Mediterranean Sea and lived in the Jewish community in Gaul, present day France. After the 'Road to Damascus' encounter with bounty hunter Shaul, Jesus was quickly aware that Damascus was not far enough from Israel. Scant evidence tells that he moved eastward to Susa, Iran and lived out his days.
The Bloodline of Jesus Christ went quiet for many generations. Or at least the trail of evidence says nothing until this royal bloodline of Israel married into the early Frank kings. Then France produced King Merovee, the first of a series of kings called the Merovingian bloodline*. Notice the root of the name Merovee is same as marine. Aquatic. Merovee was allegedly spawned half of a sea monster that raped his pregnant mother while swimming in the sea. This thread of admiralty follows this account all the way to the gold admiralty fringes hanging in the churches and courtrooms. Whether these people were really related to Jesus Christ or not, they believed so.
I will not bother to rewrite books about this account. A full account of the named kings was researched by J.R. Church in his book Guardians of the Grail...and the men who plan to rule the world! For this part of the book Church relied upon Holy Blood, Holy Grail by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln for some of his research. The Bloodline and knowledge thereof became an esoteric called "Treasures of Jerusalem" and its keepers or custodians became a secretive organization called the Priory of Sion. By 1100 AD the Priory felt the need for a military arm that was named the Knights Templar. The Muslims had overtaken the Holy Land and so in the name of Christianity the Knights Templar plundered Jerusalem. For eleven years they ruled unconditionally and brought about everything of value back into western Europe from several campaigns.
The admiralty weaves well into the Knights Templar too. A set of laws was required to justify the plunder and 'color' it legal to own the beautiful and gold ornaments of the Holy Land. Eleanor of Aquitaine was noted for mothering two kings of two distinct nations. One of which was Richard Lionheart - the Crusader of Crusaders. Richard's bust is on the decorative tang:
http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/sword.jpg http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_SwordGHTellerKT.jpg http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_HistoryOfCrusadersPaper.jpg
The records of maritime disputes at the time were kept on an island called Oleron. Therefore the Laws of Oleron were adopted for the concepts of capture, jettison and flotsam - quiet title and notice and grace. Later, the Laws of Oleron became known as the Black Book of the Admiralty.
Remember when a captain went down with the ship? That was before bottomry. Bottomry was a term for the first insurance policies. A captain would sooner go down with the vessel and cargo than to spend the rest of his days indentured, paying off the owners. Now that was circumnavigated by limited liability. That is why Justice Story in 1815 ruled that all insurance claims and contracts are adjudicated in admiralty; whether negotiated above the high tide mark or not.
The Knights Templar and its principal Prior of Sion needed to import the laws of the sea onto the land to establish limited liability which later became the same justification for fractional reserve banking. My next treatise will tie these threads together. The Bloodline, banking and admiralty.
Regards,
David Merrill
* I noticed an explicit reference in the second Matrix movie "Reloaded". Neo pays particular attention to a Jesus-like character being led away as if after sentencing by a Roman-like figure when he meets with the Merovingian. Then this same figure offers help to Neo in the third movie "Resurrections". For capturing Neo his program is redeemed into the Matrix machine. Trinity risks her life to hold the Merovingian hostage and free Neo from the holding tank 'train station'.
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_MerovingianCrucifixion.wmv
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David Merrill
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Posted - 05 Jan 2005 : 07:21:03
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By way of Introduction:
This final treatise is where I am requesting the reader execute the most difficult task. That is to drop moral value judgment upon something like the laws of bankruptcy and fractional reserve banking long enough to understand what is actually happening and has been happening for centuries.quote: Ge 49:9 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? Ge 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Ge 49:11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: Ge 49:12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.
True North said:quote: What I said to you David Merrill, paraphrazed, is ... "You carry the same non-notorious definition of faith touted by one who does not have the historical background to discern both good and evil on which they may base their actions to do the will of HaShem" ...
And his point is well taken. The man obviously feels in a position to judge my moral fiber either for the Ecclesia or for God "The Name" (HaShem). But all that aside. What I am telling you is that judging history during this hearing will skew the receiving a proper account of history. True North felt justified in warning you all not to listen to what I am about to reveal.
The point of this Topic is basically that you have probably heard history judged through the Christian lense. You have been taught a fairy tail about a supernatural Resurrection and even threatened if you do not want to buy into this communal fairy tale, that you will be destroyed in eternal pain of Hell forever and ever.
What I am saying is that if you can drop that kind of conditioning for a moment you will likely find reviewing history without the conditioning explains away a lot of discrepancies in the Gospels that you have had to ignore upon survival instinct.
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David Merrill
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Posted - 05 Jan 2005 : 09:38:51
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By way of mental preparation:
True North said:quote: Leaving metaphysics and philosophy aside for a moment, the resurrection is meaningless without this premise ... there have only been two in which the fullness of Yah indwelled ... 1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit ... The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven."
And above Jesus was a painted sign that read “Jesus of Nazareth; King of the Jews”. The rabbis allegedly complained because of the first letters, which would have been on the right of the words reading right to left:
Yehoshuah H’Natzrith V’Molech H’Yehudiym
Yehovah.
And Marty for Cornerstone Foundation said:quote: The writings of Paul at 1 Corinthians 15:12-20 do not leave that as an option for those who have the faith of Yahshua Messiah:quote: 1 Corinthians 15:12-20 from the Book of Yahweh translation:
Now since it is preached that Messiah has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
For if there is no resurrection of the dead, neither has the Messiah been raised up.
And if Messiah has not been raised up, our preaching is useless, and your faith is also empty.
Yes, then we are found to be false witnesses of Yahweh, because we have presented testimony from Yahweh that He raised up Messiah-Whom He did not raise up if , in fact, the dead are not to be raised up-
For if the dead are not to be raised up, then Messiah has not been raised up.
And if Messiah has not been raised up, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins!
Then those also who have fallen asleep in Messiah have perished.
If in this life only we have hope in Messiah, then we are of all people most miserable.
But the fact is that Messiah has been raised from the dead, and has become the first one recalled to life of those who have fallen asleep.
So keep in mind that the testimony of Paul, outside the scope of preparing a weapon against Rome, is disqualified for all intents and purposes.
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Notice Marty said "...faith of Yahshua [sic]* Messiah". Not faith "in" Yehoshuah Messiah. Anyone who believes the historical figure lived in the flesh has faith 'in' Jesus Christ. When Jesus Christ raised his eyes to heaven and prayed to God the Father, he is presumed to have had faith in God; that 100% conviction that he was not wasting his breath praying to the wind. That is the faith "of" Jesus Christ we would all hope for I am sure.
* Correctly spelled Yehoshuah. See Strong's Exhaustive Concordance G2424 to H3091. http://www.direct.ca/trinity/yehoshua.html and www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/Yehudah.jpg
Now the premise by Paul's own words is that faith of Jesus Christ is worthless if one fails to accept the supernatural Resurrection.
Logically this presumes that Jesus knew 1) he was the Messiah of God and 2) he would be raised from the dead; logically also upon the model of Abraham sacrificing Isaac, his son. Since I agree with 1) we move on to 2). Note that Isaac never passed that threshold of being 'bled out' like a lamb. The angel in the symbol stopped the execution before it was carried out. So it is not a true Resurrection scenario, is it?
So why would Jesus have been thinking along these lines? In the Garden Jesus is to have gone through a moment of fleshly doubt about whether God was really going to be there for a safety net, according to Christian pastors. But I am proposing that his confusion arose from the evening's deviations from the only prophecy left unfulfilled by Jesus the Messiah of God - the Worthless Shepard Prophecy of Zechariah. This presumption fits perfectly into the scriptures and explains Jesus' exasperation at allowing the ascetic Nazarenes to drink wine and get all sleepy drunk. How were things going to be fulfilled if Peter was too drunk to understand why he had bought (two, not one) swords with the disciples' jackets? To explain the prophecy expressly as Judas understood it (but lacked the fortitude [or whatever] to kill the king, his best friend) to Peter would have been the high crime of Imminentizing - trying to push God's hand in the Messianic Plan.
It took the near death experience of almost dying on the Cross to shake Yehoshuah out of the delusion that he, the Messiah was on the scene only for the 'lost sheep of Israel'. That is why he explained and convinced the two travelers going to Emmaes that he was truly the Messiah from the "laws of Moses". He went to the Torah and explained from the Biblical model of the Abrahamic Covenant that the Messiah must somehow get the testimony of the Word of God through Israel's commission to the nations of the world. That Israel would not be delivered from Rome and all other conquering utilities of the Almighty until that had happened. And that according to the biblical mathematics was to take two thousand more years.
I have touched on all facets, albeit briefly, of the outline. At least from this author's perspective I have delivered the key points for a reader of this Post to perceive a completely different take on history free from Christian delusions of the supernatural. Paul developed the Christian religion as an accidental byproduct of his mental weapon against Rome. Marcus Eli Ravage took an extreme Jewish opinion in 1928 in the opening articles on this Post. But the historical fact is essentially true. Israel through the Jews have managed the Christian religion for the past 1800 years as a sect of Judaism. Probably inadvertently, at least by Jewish intent, Christianity has brought the ancient writings of Israel, the Word of God, to the pagan nations of the world.
I remember coming to that revelation in about 1997 sitting in a Messianic Jewish synagogue listening to the manager of the "1040 Window" Christian Mission project announcing the Project was a success and it was formally complete.
A bit more extreme than Ravage was a Jewish expert named Rosenthal in the '70s who interviewed with a popular magazine editor. Shortly afterward Rosenthal was in a hijacked plane and thrown from the cockpit onto the runway tarmac after being shot dead on a blistering hot day in Israel. The hijackers took four of the some one hundred and sixty lives. I am speaking from my possibly faulty memory about these details. You can get the newspaper articles from your library.
The important thing to remember is that Rosenthal is interviewing with a Christian and I believe the article was published in American Christian Magazine - something like that. Maybe these details are in the article itself. It has been a few years since I read it, and I do not really bother reading it seriously because of the Christian paranoid bias against the Jews. There are essential points that I want conveyed to the reader here. 1) Rosenthal, like Ravage is quite sick of Christians and their arrogance. Rosenthal brags and distorts by exaggeration for shock effect. 2) The Jews are quite aware how their doctrine, the Old Covenant has influenced the world as we know it.
Another thing to always remember when reading about Christians and Jews is the historical truth about the Khazarian/Ashkenazim. These people are not Semitic. Therefore it is linguistically incorrect to use the term "antisemitic" in reference to 95% of today's Jewry. Read Genesis 10:1-3. Today's Jews are Japhethic, not Semitic.quote: THE HIDDEN TYRANNY The most revealing and shocking interview of a Jew, Mr. Rosenthal, an influential Jew learned in the Jewish ways and involved in the workings of government in Washington, D.C., explained the Jewish involvement and cause of the major problems we face today.
INTRODUCTION: The following contains the text of a most revealing and shocking interview of a Jew by the name of Harold Rosenthal,which was conducted in 1976, by a concerned American, a Walter White, Jr. Mr. Rosenthal, an influential Jew learned in the Jewish ways and involved in the workings of government in Washington, D.C., explained the Jewish involvement and cause of the major problems we face today. Rosenthal, in exposing certain aspects of the 'inner invisible world of Jewry, revealed the modes and tactics Jews have used in destroying Western civilization and covertly attaining control over our lives and governments. The result has been a 'hidden tyranny' upon us like the tyranny waged against the Saints by the red beast system of Revelations referred to as 'Mystery Babylon.' But how could such a small number of Jews enslave so many people and gain such an overwhelming control over their governments, especially without their being aware of it? The answer to this may be found in Christ's parable of the unjust steward, which represents Jewry. They are able to prevail in the world despite their ungodly ways because of their cunning and shrewd ways. As Christ said--"For the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."Luke 16:8
In other words, the Jew, with his worldly mind set, is craftier than God's Christian people. When you read the words of Mr. Rosenthal the reality of this statement will come to light. This problem was so prevalent and important for us to overcome that Christ had instructed us to "be wise as serpents" Matt 10:16
America and the world is now covered in political, economic,moral, and social problems which need to be acted upon by God loving people. As Edmund Burke stated: "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."But before we can properly act we need a proper (not just a superficial) understanding of the problem. What follows will help provide the reader with that understanding.
-- Charles A. Weisman 6/92 "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).
"The great ideal of Judaism is that the whole world shall be imbued with Jewish teachings, and that in a Universal Brotherhood of Nations a greater Judaism, in fact ALL THE SEPARATE RACES and RELIGIONS SHALL DISAPPEAR." (Jewish World, February 9, 1883). They reiterate: "The great ideal of Judaism is that the whole world shall be imbued with Jewish teachings, and that in a Universal Brotherhood of Nations a greater Judaism in fact all the separate races and religions shall disappear." (Jewish World, February 9, 1933) Rabbi Julius T. Loeb a Jewish Zionist leader in Washington was reported in "Who's Who in the Nation's Capital," 1929-1930, as referring to Jerusalem as "The Head Capital of the United States of the World."
"We are interested in just the opposite; in the diminution, the killing out of the Goyim." (Reportedly spoken by a Jewish speaker in the Rothschild home in 1773)
"We intend to remake the Gentiles what the Communists are doing in Russia." (Rabbi Lewish Brown in How Odd of God, New York, 1924) PLace at end and go into communism.
"The League of Nations is a Jewish idea. We created it after a fight of 25 years. Jerusalem will one day become the Capital of World Peace." (Nahum Sokolow, During the Zionist Congress at Carlsbad in 1922)
Rabbi Julius T. Loeb a Jewish Zionist leader in Washington was reported in "Who's Who in the Nation's Capital,"1929-1930, as referring to Jerusalem as "The Head Capital of the United States of the World."
"The Nations will exhort to tranquility. They will be ready to sacrifice everything for peace, but WE WILL NOT GIVE THEM PEACE until they openly acknowledge our International Super-Government, and with SUBMISSIVENESS." (Zionist Congress at Basle in 1897)
"One of the major reasons for my visit to the United States is to interest Americans in the beautification of Jerusalem, the Capital of the World, no less than the Capital of Israeli." (Mayor of Jerusalem, South African Jewish Times of 14th March, 1952)
"Three hundred men, who all know each other direct the economic destinies of the Continent and they look for successors among their friends and relations. This is not the place to examine the strange causes of this strange state of affairs which throws a ray of light on the obscurity of our social future." (Walter Rathenau; The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De Poncins, p. 169)
"As for the final result of the Messianic revolution it will always be the same...the nations will be converted to Judaism and will obey the law, or else they will be destroyed, and the Jews will be the masters of the world." (G. Batault, Le probleme juif, p. 135; The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon de Poncins, pp. 203204)
"We Jews, who have posed as the saviors of the world. We are today, nothing but the worlds seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its executioners. There is no further doubt that the influence of the Jews today justify a very careful study and cannot possibly be viewed without serious alarm." (The World Significance of the Russian Revolution)
"The principal end, which is Jewish world-domination, is not yet reached. But it will be reached and it is already closer than masses of the so-called Christian States imagine. Russian Czarism, the German Empire and militarism are overthrown, all peoples are being pushed towards ruin. This is the moment in which the true domination of Jewry has its beginning." (Judas Schuldbuch, The Wise Men of Zion)
"The right place for the League of Nations is not Geneva or the Hague, Ascher Ginsberg has dreamed of a Temple on Mount Zion where the representatives of all nations should dedicate a Temple of Eternal Peace. Only when all peoples of the earth shall go to THIS temple as pilgrims is eternal peace to become a fact." (Ascher Ginsberg, in The German Jewish paper Judisch Rundschu, No. 83, 1921) Ascher Ginsberg is stated to have rewritten the "Protocols of Zion," in "Waters Flowing Eastwards," page 38.
"Personally, I am more than ever inclined to believe that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are genuine. Without them I do not see how one could explain things that are happening today. More than ever, I think the Jews are at the bottom of all our troubles." (Nesta Webster, in a letter written May 4, 1934, to Arthur Goadby, published in Robert E. Edmondson's, I Testify, p. 129)
"We, the Jews, are a people - one people. When we sink, we become revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of a revolutionary party; when we rise, there arises also our terrible power of the purse." (Theodor Herzl, 'The Jewish State', 1896)
"The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination - the increasing influence of the farmers and workers, and the rising political influence of men of science, may transform the United States into a welfare state with a planned economy. Western and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states having a socialist and democratic regime. With the exception of the USSR as a federated Eurasian state, all other continents will become united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be abolished, and there will be no more wars. In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents." (David Ben Gurion)
"The two Internationals of Finance and Revolution work with ardour, they are the two fronts of the Jewish Internationale. There is a Jewish conspiracy against all nations." (Rene Groos, 'Le Nouveau Mercure, Paris, May, 1927) ***************************************************
The Hidden Tyranny
Part One In a highly confidential interview with a Jewish administrative assistant to one of this nation's ranking senators, he said, "It is a marvel that the American people do not rise up and drive every Jew out of this country."
The Jew, Mr. Harold Wallace Rosenthal, made this statement after admitting Jewish dominance in all significant national programs. He said, "We Jews continue to be amazed with the ease by which Christian Americans have fallen into our hands. While the naive Americans wait for Khrushchev to bury them, we have taught them to submit to our every command." (l)
When asked how a nation could be captured without their knowing it, Mr. Rosenthal attributed this victory to absolute control of the media. He boasted of Jewish control of all news. Any newspaper which refused to acquiesce to controlled news was brought to its knees by withdrawing advertising. Failing in this, the Jews stop the supply of news print and ink. "It's a very simple matter," he stated.
When asked about men in high political office, Mr. Rosenthal said that no one in the last three decades has achieved any political power without Jewish approval. "Americans have not had a presidential choice since 1932 when [Franklin] Roosevelt was our man; every president since Roosevelt has been our man." (2) Notes: (1) This submission has been made possible by the gradual adoption of Talmudic concepts which are accepted as being Christian, thus producing a Jewish society. It is what Rabbi Martin Siegel called, "the Judaization of Christianity." (2) Even before Roosevelt, the Jewish influence upon Woodrow Wilson (1913-21) was quite evident, as Henry Ford wrote in 1921 "Mr. Wilson, while President, was very close to the Jews. Hisadministration, as everyone knows, was predominantly Jewish." The International Jew, Dearborn Publishing Co., Vol. III, p. 28-9. "It being true that the Delanos are wellknown Jews from the Netherlands, President Roosevelt is, from the standpoint of Jewish Heredity Law, as good a Jew as Bernard M.Baruch." (Letter of May 14, 1939, by Dr. von Leers) "Although a Republican, the former Governor has a sincere regard for President Roosevelt, and his politics. He referred to the 'Jewish ancestry' of the President, explaining how he is a descendent of the Rossocampo family expelled from Spain in 1620. Seeking safety in Germany, Holland and other countries, members of the family, he said, changed their name to Rosenberg, Rosenbaum, Rosenblum, Rosenvelt and Rosenthal. The Rosenvelts in North Holland finally became Roosevelt, soon becoming apostates with the first generation and other followingsuit until, in the fourth generation, a little storekeeper by the name of Jacobus Roosevelt was the only one who remained true to his Jewish Faith. It is because of this Jewish ancestry, former Governor Osborn said, that President Roosevelt has the trend of economic safety (?) in his veins." (Chase S. Osborn, 1934 at St. Petersburg, Florida, The Times Newspaper). **************************************************** In a discussion about George Wallace, Mr. Rosenthal smiled and suggested that we note where Wallace stands today. When the U.S. foreign policy was mentioned,- the bedroom confidence of the interview was all but set aside. With disdain and mockery he sneered at the American stupidity in failing to see through the entire scope of Kissinger foreign policy. "It is Zionist-Communist policy from beginning to end. Yet the citizens think this Jewish policy will benefit America." (3) He cited 'd‚tente' and Angola as examples of Jewish diplomacy. The credulous nature of Americans drew only contempt from him. Note: (3) The reason for this is because the Jewish media refers to the "Zionist-Communist policy" as "American policy" pursuant to "Constitutional" provisions. Ignorance of our own system of government is the real issue here. The interview continued on an almost omniscient plane: "We Jews have put issue upon issue to the American people. Then we promote both sides of the issue as confusion reigns. With their eyes fixed on the issues, they fail to see who is behind every scene. We Jews toy with the American public as a cat toys with a mouse." As the conversation went on into the late hours, one could sense that perhaps America deserves the reign of terror being planned for her. The Jewish mind pits every ethnic group against the other. "The blood of the masses will flow as we wait for our day of world victory," Mr. Rosenthal said coldly. (4) For hours after this incredible discussion, a sense of inadequacy prevailed. Is it possible that another group of 'human beings' could be so treacherous in spirit, so evil in intent? Yet, the words heard and the evidence at hand are real. Is it possible that the American people can remain docile, even while their life's blood is being drained from them? It seems so. Note: (4) This is the same dialogue spoken by communist revolutionary leaders. We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tension. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by the whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to install in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause." (Israel Cohen 'A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century,' 1912, Congressional Record, p8557, 1957)
"Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels," Weyl writes, "were neither internationalists nor believers in equal rights of all the races and peoples. They opposed the struggles for national independence of those races and peoples that they despised. They believed that the 'barbaric' and 'a historic' peoples who comprised the immense majority of mankind had played no significant role in history and were not destined to do so in the foreseeable future." (Karl Marx, by Nathaniel Weyl). "We Jews have spoiled the blood of all races; We have tarnished and broken their power; we have make everything foul, rotten, decomposed and decayed." (The Way to Zion, Munzer) "The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental quality." (Ben Wattenberg, Jewish 'philosopher,' in The Good News, The Bad News, p. 84) *****************************************************
What Does All This Say To Us?
Since the time that this lengthy interview was recorded, Mr. Harold Wallace Rosenthal, age 29, the administrative assistant to Senator Jacob K. Javits of New York, was killed in an alleged skyjacking attempt on an Israeli airliner in Istanbul, Turkey, August 12, 1976. It would appear that Mr. Rosenthal might have 'talked too freely' because although four people were killed and some 30 injured during the skyjacking attempt, Rosenthal was not killed by a random bullet as were the others. From reports secured at the time, it seems amazing and strange that of all the people involved in this incident Mr. Rosenthal should have been fatally wounded. Meanwhile, I, Walter White, who conducted this confidential interview, can now state after much investigation, expense and travel, that Harold Rosenthal was undoubtedly murdered at the Istanbul airport, in what was to appear as a hijacking probably by his own people. (5) Note: (5) "There is nothing that the International Jew fears so much as the truth, or any hint of the truth about himself or his plans." The International Jew, Vol. I, p. 200. "Mossad can go to any distinguished American Jew and ask for help." (ex-CIA official, 9/3/1979, Newsweek) We had no desire to hurt anyone and especially members of the Rosenthal family who had suffered enough in this tragedy. We corresponded with his mother and father in Philadelphia and his brother Mark David Rosenthal who is attending college in northern California. In fact, it was he who advised me that Harold's friends in Washington had set up a memorial fund in Harold W. Rosenthal's name. He sent us a copy of "The Harold W. Rosenthal Fellowship In International Relations" American Jewish Committee, Washington Chapter, 818-18th Street N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006. It lists some of the 'who's-who' and the honorary Co-Chairman are vice President Walter F.Mondale and Senator Jacob K. Javits. Out of respect, we decided to wait until a year had passed since the death of Harold Wallace Rosenthal so we delayed publishing everything he gave us on that memorable day and evening. And as stated before, the interview was lengthy - as he seemed to enjoy pouring out this information - and at times it was broken - and went on into the evening. This writer and editor is not easily shocked but as this egotist Harold W. Rosenthal raved on and on I found so much of what he said actually horrifying - the actual betrayal of which he admittedly was a part - and he appeared to gloat over the apparent success of a Jewish World Conspiracy. This, mind you, comes from an "administrative assistant" to one of our ranking Senators, Jacob K. Javits of New York. What you are about to read should act as a Warning to all non-jews throughout the world. It hopefully should open the eyes of many who knew him in Washington government circles. It becomes indeed obvious that what he discloses is not fiction. It is not imagination! He was not pretending as he spoke with knowledge and intelligence. Many things have been said and written about the One World Jewish Conspiracy but never has it been described so openly. It staggers the imagination. Their plans are shocking and many will be astonished at the contents of this document. NOTHING like it has ever been told before. We prefer not to elaborate ! You Be The Judge ! Looking back to the time of this interview and having had time to analyze Harold Rosenthal's candidness, we are compelled to think of him as a conceited, boastful yet very knowledgeable person. I would classify him as an egotist and an egoist. At times his cruelty surfaced with a venom, especially as he describes the stupid Christians or 'goy' as he so often referred to us. This surprised me because the word goy is not in our language and he must have known this. His mind was thoroughly immersed in the one-world plan of world Jewry. With arrogance, he boasted that the Jew's conquest of the world was almost complete thanks to Christianity stupidity.
Jewish Zionism & Anti-Semitism When asked if he was a Zionist Mr. R. replied: "That's a hell of a question! At the foundation of the issue is the traditional Zionist concept of aliyah, a Hebrew term meaning the "in gathering" or return of Diaspora (dispersed)Jews to the Palestine homeland. Ever since 1948, and the creation of the state of Israel, aliyah has become a basic imperative of Israeli government policy." What is 'aliyah'? Will you please spell it for me - wherein he did and we inquired as to the realistic meaning of aliyah. Mr. R. said: "It is a permanent physical migration to Palestine, not just a visit." We asked, what is Zionism? I've heard Jews define it as anything from a permanent migration to financial and spiritual support of Israel from around the world. Mr. R. replied: "Our first leader, former Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion said that Zionism without a 'return to Zion' is phony. Not many American Jews migrate permanently to Israel. Some say that all Jews, by definition, are Zionists. Others say that a Jew is not a Zionist unless he's a member who pays dues to an actively Zionist organization. Definitions have been tossed everywhere since the Jewish homeland became a reality." (6) Note: (6) Zionist propaganda and activities have always been based and accepted on the false assumption that the Jews are Israelites, making Palestine the Jews' land; and that they only need help to go back and to build up their state. Thus, gullible Christians support them. "The Zionist Organization is a body unique in character, with practically all the functions and duties of a government, but deriving its strength and resources not from one territory but from some seventy-two different countries. The supreme government is in the hands of the Zionist Congress, composed of over 200 delegates, representing shekelpayers of all countries. Congress meets once every two years. Its [supreme government] powers between sessions are then delegated to the Committee [Sanhedrin]." (Report submitted to the Zionist Conference at Sydney, Australia, by Mr. Ettinger, a Zionist Lawyer) mBillions of tax-exempt American dollars are sent to Israel yearly and we true Americans do not like this. Mr. R. replied: "The naive politicians in Washington are gullible. Most of them are not too bright, so the powerful Jewish lobbyists influenced this practice years ago and there is no one strong enough to stop it. Some of that money is even returned to the United States and spent on Zionist propaganda efforts, much of it through the (Masonic)B'nai B'rith and the Conference of Jewish Organizations and the World Jewish Congress. The Jewish Agency is a funding arm - a sort of body of B'nai B'rith officials. There is nothing wrong with sending American dollars to Israel tax-free so long as we are smart enough to get away with it. Let's reverse this conversation for a minute. You made it clear and quite vociferously, that you don't like Jews. Why do you hate us?" Mr. Rosenthal, I do not hate anybody. I said I hate what the Jews are doing to us and especially as it relates to any and everything related to Christianity. I hate their deceit, trickery, cunning, and their detestable dishonesty. Does that make me anti-semitic? If it does then I am anti-semitic!! "Anti-Semitism does not signify opposition to Semitism. There is no such thing. It is an expression we Jews use effectively as a smear word-used to brand as a bigot like you guys-anyone who brings criticism against Jews. We use it against hate-mongers." (7) Note: (7) "Anti-Semitism" is a recent creation by Jews. Jews tell us what constitutes Anti-Semitism and when it exists. All the "anti-Semitism" that exists in the United States is the deliberate creation of the Jewish leaders. The Jews want and need this tool to control and silence the opposition to their harmful and repugnant ways. It was made clear that I despised the Jews' corruptive influence on our Christian culture-and on our properly Christ-oriented American way of life to which Mr. R. said: "During Christ's time, the Jews were seeking a material and earthly kingdom, but Christ offered the Jews a spiritual kingdom. This, they couldn't buy, so they rejected Jesus Christ and had him crucified." What do you mean had him crucified? Doesn't history prove that the Jews crucified Jesus Christ? To which he answered: "Yes, I guess they did. I don't beat around the bush, but 2,000 years ago your people would have done the same thing to a man who mistreated you, as Christ did the Jews." You speak of Jesus Christ as merely a man. "That's all he was a man who walked on the earth like any other man and this myth about Christ rising from the dead and returning to earth to visit with his disciples is a bunch of crap. The Jews who drove the Arabs out of Palesine, did so, to disprove CHRIST'S Mission for a spiritual kingdom ! You see, instead of a leader who would make an empire for the Jews, your kind of people gave the Jews a peaceful preacher called Christ who instead of an eye-for-an-eye turns the other cheek. Rubbish! We are building and, in fact, have built an earthly empire without your kind and your disappointing Messiah." I can see that it is you, and your kind, who try to get Christ out of Christmas. I feel sorry for you. To which he quickly replied: "Don't give me that **** ! I don't want your pity. I don't need it! Too many Jews do not have the guts to tell you how we live and plan, but I am not intimidated by anyone or anything. I know where I'm going." Note: "Your people are so paranoid, it is obvious we can no longer permit you to exist. We cannot allow you to spread your filthy, immoral, Christian beliefs to the rest of the world. Naturally, you oppose World Government, unless it is under your Fascist Christian control. Who are you to proclaim that your Christian American way is the best? It is obvious you have never been exposed to the communist system. When nationalism is finally smashed in America. I will personally be there to firebomb your church, burn your Bibles, confiscate your firearms and take your children away. We will send them to Eastern Bloc schools and reeducate them to become the future leaders of a One World Government, and to run our Socialist Republic of America. We are taking over the world and there is nothing you can do to stop us." (Letter from a Spokane, Washington Jew to Christian Pastor Sheldon Emry). "The strongest supporters of Judaism cannot deny that Judaism is anti-Christian." (Jewish World, March 15, 1924) "Today the Gentile Christians who claim of holy right have been led in the wrong path. We, of the Jewish Faith have tried for centuries to teach the Gentiles a Christ never existed, and that the story of the Virgin and of Christ is, andalways has been, a fictitious lie. In the near future, when the Jewish people take over the rule of the United States, legally under our god, we will create a new education system, providing that our god is the only one to follow, and proving that the Christ story is a fake...CHRISTIANITY WILL BE ABOLISHED." (M.A. Levy, Secretary of the World League of Liberal Jews, in a speech in Los Angeles, California, August, 1949)
Government Control and Political Control When asked why do Jews frequently change their names, he said: "Jews are the most intelligent people in the world, so if it benefits them to change their names they do so. That's all there is to it. They mix in your society, which is plenty corrupt, so while the Jews are benefiting themselves, the dumb goy doesn't realize that these Jews with non Jew names, are Jews. I know what you're thinking about Jews in the government who use non-jew names. Well, don't be concerned, because in the foreseeable future, there will be no Presidential power in the United States. The invisible government is taking strength in that direction." Note: This can be seen in the current Presidential race. Gov. Bush and VP Al Gore, have completely removed any debate of globalism (re-labeled Marxism) from their campaigns. To your knowledge, are the Jews in Russia really persecuted or are they given any kind of freedom? To which he said: "Most Jews throughout the world - I'd say more than 90% know what is really happening to our people. We have communication unequaled anywhere. It is only the jerks, the ignorant and misinformed and degenerates who can find peace in your society-and you bastards hide your sins by donning sheep's clothing. You are the hypocrites - not the Jews, as you say and write about. To answer your question - in Russia, there are two distinct governments - one visible and the other invisible. The visible is made up of different nationalities - whereas the invisible is composed of all Jews. The powerful Soviet secret police takes its orders from the invisible government. There are about six to seven million Communists in Soviet Russia. 50% are Jews and about 50% gentile - but the gentiles are not trusted. The Communist Jews are united and trust each other - while the others spy on one another. About every five or six Communist Jews are united and trust each other - while the others spy on one another. About every five or six years secret Jewish Board calls for the purge of the Party and many are liquidated." When asked, why? he said: "Because they begin to understand too much the Jewish secret of government. Russian Communists have a Secret Group Order which consists of Jews only. They rule over everything pertaining to the visible government. It was this powerful organization that was responsible for the secret removal of the center of Communism to Tel Aviv from where all instructions now originate. Notes: "Marxism is the modern form of Jewish prophecy." (Reinhold Niebur, Speech before the Jewish Institution of Religion, New York, Oct. 3, 1934) "Some call it Marxism - I call it Judaism."( Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, 'The American Bulletin', May 15, 1935) "IF the tide of history does not turn Communist Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed." )George marlen 'Stalin, Trosky, or Lenin', p. 414, New York 1937) "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself. Inthe fact that so many Jews are Bolsheviks. In the fact that theideals of Bolshevism are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism." (The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1918) "It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism. All that is in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews." (Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews andan Answer to all AntiSemites, p. 148, 1939) "Marxism is the modern form of Jewish prophecy."(Reinhold Niebur, Speech before the Jewish Institute of Religion, New York October 3, 1934)
What the Jews did to non-Jews Under Communism "The extraordinary Commissions are not a medium of Justice, but 'OF EXTERMINATION WITHOUT MERCY according, to the expression of the Central Communist Committee. The extraordinary Commission is not a 'Commission of Enquiry,' nor a Court of Justice, nor a Tribunal, it decides for itself its own powers. 'It is a medium of combat which operates on the interior front of the Civil War. It does not judge the enemy but exterminates him. It does not pardon those who are on the other side of the barricade, it crushes them.'It is not difficult to imagine how this extermination without mercy operates in reality when, instead of the 'dead code of the laws,' there reigns only revolutionary experience and conscience. Conscience is subjective and experience must give place to the pleasure and whims of the judges. 'We are not making war against individuals in particular,' writes Latsis (Latsis directed the Terror in the Ukraine) inthe Red Terror of November 1918. 'WE ARE EXTERMINATING THE BOURGEOISIE (middle class) AS A CLASS. Do not look in the enquiry for documents and proofs of what the accused person has done in acts or words against the Soviet Authority. The first question which you must put to him is, to what class does he belong, what are his origin, his education, his instruction, his profession." (S.P. Melgounov, La terreur rouge en Russiede 1918 a 1923. Payot, 1927; The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De Poncins, pp. 147148) "The Jews were now free to indulge in their most fervent fantasies of mass murder of helpless victims. Christians were dragged from their beds, tortured and killed. Some were actually sliced to pieces, bit by bit, while others were branded with hot irons, their eyes poked out to induce unbearable pain. Others were placed in boxes with only their heads, hands and legs sticking out. Then hungry rats were placed in the boxes to gnaw upon their bodies. Some were nailed to the ceiling by their fingers or by their feet, and left hanging until they died of exhaustion. Others were chained to the floor and left hanging until they died of exhaustion. Others were chained to the floor and hot lead poured into their mouths. Many were tied to horses and dragged through the streets of the city, while Jewish mobs attacked them with rocks and kicked them to death. Christian mothers were taken to the public square and their babies snatched from their arms. A red Jewish terrorist would take the baby, hold it by the feet, head downward and demand that the Christian mother deny Christ. If she would not, he would toss the baby into the air, and another member of the mob would rush forward and catch it on the tip of his bayonet. Pregnant Christian women were chained to trees and their babies cut out of their bodies. There were many places of public execution in Russia during the days of the revolution, one of which was described by the American Rohrbach Commission: 'The whole cement floor of the execution hall of the Jewish Cheka of Kiev was flooded with blood; it formed a level of several inches. It was a horrible mixture of blood, brains and pieces of skull. All the walls were bespattered with blood. Pieces of brains and of scalps were sticking to them. A gutter of 25 centimeters wide by 25 centimeters deep and about 10 meters long was along its length full to the top with blood. Some bodies were disemboweled, others had limbs chopped off, some were literally hacked to pieces. Some had their eyes put out, the head, face and neck and trunk were covered with deep wounds. Further on, we found a corpse with a wedge driven into its chest. Some had no tongues. In a corner we discovered a quantity of dismembered arms and legs belonging to no bodies that we could locate.'" (Defender Magazine, October 1933) "Yes, certainly your Russia is dying. There no longer exists anywhere, if it has ever existed, a single class of the population for which life is harder than in our Soviet paradise...We make experiments on the living body of the people, devil take it, exactly like a first year student working on a corpse of a vagabond which he has procured in the anatomy operatingtheater. Read our two constitutions carefully; it is there frankly indicated that it is not the Soviet Union nor its parts which interest us, but the struggle against world capital and the universal revolution to which we have always sacrificed everything, to which we are sacrificing the country, to which we are sacrificing ourselves. (It is evident that the sacrifice does not extend to the Zinovieffs)... Here, in our country, where we are absolute masters, we fear no one at all. The country worn out by wars, sickness, death and famine (it is a dangerous but splendid means), no longer dares to make the slightest protest, finding itself under the perpetual menace of the Cheka and the army. Often we are ourselves surprised by its patience which has become so well known, there is not, one can be certain in the whole of Russia, A SINGLE HOUSEHOLD IN WHICH WE HAVE NOT KILLED IN SOME MANNER OR OTHER THE FATHER, THE MOTHER, A BROTHER, A DAUGHTER (RAPE TOO), A SON, SOME NEAR RELATIVE OR FRIEND. Very well then! Felix (Djerjinsky) nevertheless walks quietly about Moscow without any guard, even at night... When we remonstrate with him for these walks he contents himself with laughing disdainfullyand saying: 'WHAT! THEY WOULD NEVER DARE' psakrer, 'AND HE IS RIGHT. THEY DO NOT DARE. What a strange country!" (Letter from Bukharin to Britain, La Revue universelle, March 1, 1928; The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De Poncins, p. 149)
Back to the interview: Does our government and the United Nations have knowledge of this? Mr. R. He replied: "The United Nations is nothing but a trap-door to the Red World's immense concentration camp. We pretty much control the U.N." When asked why the Communists destroy the middle class or educated and their entire families when they invade a country Mr. R. replied: "It is an established rule to destroy all members of pre-existing government, their families and relatives, but never Jews. They destroy all members of the police, state police, army officers and their families, but never Jews. You see, we know when a government begins to search for the Communists within its borders - they are really attempting to uncover Jews in their area. We're not fooled! The invisible rulers in the Communist countries have a world control over the propaganda, and the governments in free countries. We control every media of expression, including newspapers, magazines, radio and television. Even your music! We censor the song released for publication, long before they reach the publishers. Before long, we will have complete control of your thinking!" (8)
Note:(8) Those who do not have the might to conquer their enemies must resort to mind control, which eventually can be more effective than outright physical control, as none are aware of the control and thus no resistance is made.
Christianity and Judaism "Do not let the forces of evil take over to make this a Christian America." (Senator Howard Metzenbaum, 11/6/86) The way you boast - if this is true - it is frightening to think about our future - and that of Christianity - to which Mr. R. said: "There will be a forced class of warfare here in the United States, and many will be liquidated. You will unquestionably be among them. The Jews will not be harmed. I'm not boasting! I'm giving you the facts! And it is too late for your Christian followers to put up a defense. That time is long past. Long, long ago we had to become the aggressors!! That is undoubtedly one of our great purposes in life. We are the aggressors !" After reminding him that we thought he was intelligent, but now realize that he doesn't know what he was talking about, he replied: "Judaism is the unequaled culture - with nothing, nothing anywhere in the world to compare with it. Your so-called Christianity is an outgrowth of Judaism. The cultural and intellectual influence of Judaism is felt throughout the entire world, yes, throughout civilization." Note: JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HERITAGE IS A HOAX: It appears there is no need to belabor the absurdity and fallacy of the "Judeo-Christian heritage" fiction, which certainly is clear to all honest theologians. That "Judeo-Christian dialogue" in this context is also absurd was well stated in the author-initiative religious journal, Judaism, Winter 1966, by Rabbi Eliezar Berkowitz, chairman of the department of Jewish philosophy, at the Hebrew Theological College when he wrote: "As to dialogue in the purely theological sense, nothing could be more fruitless or pointless. Judaism is Judaism, BECAUSE IT REJECTS CHRISTIANITY; and Christianity is Christianity BECAUSE IT REJECTS JUDAISM. What is usually referred to as the JEWISH- CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS EXISTS ONLY IN CHRISTIAN OR SECULARIST FANTASY." There is nothing Christian about the Talmud ! When I asked whether he thought we faced a problem eventually with the Blacks because of their startling population increase he said that the Blacks are helping to serve 'our purpose' which might mean several things. We discussed the increase Blacks in city, county and state jobs and their prominence now in television. Also how ridiculous it is for Blacks to become converted to Jews like Sammy Davis for instance. Mr. R. replied: "That doesn't mean anything. We know that a Black cannot become a Jew and that Sammy Davis is still Black. It may have been to his advantage to become converted. In reality he still remains a nigger and not a Jew." Note: Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels said Blacks: "...were people who ought to be eradicated and swept from the earth."(Karl Marx, by Nathaniel Weyl). The Jewish owned Social Democratic Herald, on September 14, 1901, characterized Negroes as "inferior...depraved elements' who went around 'raping women and children.'" I told him of my in-depth study of the Jews and that there were few who have done more research on world Jewry than I, and about my unpleasant discoveries--reminding Mr. R. that there is no morality among Jews. He replied: "Money is more important than morality. We can accomplish anything with money. Our people are proving that in Israel where its strength against attack is its permanent state of war readiness. Israel can now win in any encounter. The kibbutz-raised intellectual elements are going to build that small country into a mid-east wonderland. It will also eventually be the base for World Government Headquarters." (9)
Note: (9) Talmudic Judaism is a religion of Jewish world control and slavery. "THE TALMUD: HEART'S BLOOD OF THE JEWISH FAITH..." (November 11, 1959, New York Herald Tribune, based on The Talmud, by Herman Wouk). Rabbi Bakker writes: "This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jews as well as Christians - that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is of course a fallacious impression." We discussed the tragedy of Watergate and corruption at all levels of government and suggested that government representatives practice more openness and candor in dealing with the people. Mr. R. said: "What good would it do? What the hell does the public know about the running of government. The great majority are asses, horses asses!!" May we quote you on that? "I don't care what you do, as I said, few have the guts to speak out. We would all have better understanding between each other - jews and gentiles - if we spoke out more openly. Your people don't have guts. We establish your thinking - we even place within you a 'guilt complex' making you afraid to criticize Jewry openly."
The Jewish Belief and Religion In the quietness of this enlightening conversation it became clear that the understanding poured forth did not come from a novice. Mr. Rosenthal was asked how Jews gain acceptance so easily among other races. His answer was long and thorough. "At a very early date, urged on by the desire to make our way in the world, Jews began to look for a means whereby we might distract all attention from the racial aspect. What could be more effective, and at the same time more above suspicion, than to borrow and utilize the idea of a religious community? We've been forced to borrow this idea from the Aryans. We jews never possessed any religious institution which developed out of our own consciousness, for we lack any kind of idealism. This means that a belief in life beyond this terrestrial existence is foreign to us. As a matter of fact,the Talmud does not lay down principles with which to prepare the individual for a life to come, but furnishes only rules for a sumptuous life in this world. It is a collection of instructions for maintaining the Jewish race and regulating intercourse between us and the goy. Our teachings are not concerned with moral problems, but rather with how to 'GET.'(10) "In regard to the moral value of the Jews' religious teaching, there exist quite exhaustive studies which show the kind of religion that we have in a light that makes it look uncanny to the Aryan mind. We are the best example of the kind of product which religious training evolves. Our life is of this world only and our mentality is as foreign to the true spirits of Christianity as our character was to the Founder of this new creed 2,000 years ago. The Founder of Christianity made no secret of his estimation of the Jews and the fact that he was not one of us. When he found it necessary he drove us out of the temple of God, because then, as always, we used religion as a means of advancing our commercial interest. (11)"But at that time, we managed to nail Jesus to the cross for his attitude towards us; whereas, the modern Christians enter into party politics and in order to win elections, they debase themselves by begging for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with us against the interests of their own nation. (l2) "We can live among other nations and states only as long as we succeed in persuading them that the Jews are not a distinct people, but are the representatives of a religious faith who, therefore, constitute a 'religious community, though this be of a peculiar character. As a matter of fact, this is the greatest of our falsehoods. (l3) "We are obliged to conceal our own particular character and mode of life so that we will be allowed to continue our existence as a parasite among the nations. Our success in this line has gone so far that many believe that the Jews among them are genuine Frenchmen, or Englishmen, or Italians, or Germans who just happen to belong to a religious denomination which is different from that prevailing in these countries. Especially in circles concerned with government, where the officials have only a minimum of historical sense, we are able to impose our infamous deception with comparative ease. Therefore, there is never the slightest suspicion that we Jews form a distinct nation and are not merely the adherents of a 'confession.' Though one glance at the press which we control ought to furnish sufficient evidence to the contrary, even for those who possess only the smallest degree of intelligence." Notes: (10) This explains the parasitic nature of Jewish people. Jews never get rich off one another, but seek to 'get' the labor and wealth of others. (11) The Merchants of Babylon have commercialized our society. (12) These people have been called by various names: scalawags, political prostitutes, carpetbaggers, charlatans, traitors, stooges, pawns, etc. (13) The Jews have established five major falsehoods which work to conceal their nature and protect their status and power, to wit: (1) The Jews are Israelites, and thus God's chosen people; (2) Jesus Christ was a Jew; (3) That 6 million Jews were killed in a holocaust during WW II; (4) That all people are equal; and, (5) That the Jews are just another religious group.
The Money Power When questioned about the ways in which the Jews have gained power, Mr. Rosenthal said: "Our power has been created through the manipulation of the national monetary system. We authored the quotation, 'Money is power.' As revealed in our master plan, it was essential for us to establish a private national bank. The Federal Reserve system fitted our plan nicely since it is owned by us, but the name implies that it is a government institution. From the very outset, our purpose was to confiscate all the gold and silver, replacing them with worthless non-redeemable paper notes. This we have done!" When asked about the term 'non-redeemable notes,'Mr. Rosenthal replied: "Prior to 1968, the gullible goy could take a one dollar Federal Reserve note into any bank in America and redeem it for a dollar which was by law a coin containing 412-1/2 grains of 90 per cent silver. Up until 1933, one could have redeemed the same note for a coin of 25-4/5ths grains of 90 per cent gold. All we do is give the goy more non-redeemable notes, or else copper slugs. But we never give them their gold and silver. Only more paper," he said contemptuously. "We Jews have prospered through the paper gimmick. It's our method through which we take money and give only paper in return." (14) Note:(14) The economic problem of America and the world is ultimately a Jewish problem, or as Henry Ford stated: "The Money Question, properly solved, is the end of the Jewish Question and every other question of a mundane nature. The International Jew, Vol. III, p.221 . "Give me control of the money of a country and I care not who makes her laws." (Meyer Rothschild) In "Washington Dateline," the president of The American Research Foundation, Robert H. Goldsborough, writes that he was told personally by Mark Jones {one-time financial advisor to the late John D. Rockefeller, Jr., and president of the National Economic Council in the 1960s and 1970s} "that just four men, through their interlocking directorates on boards of large corporations and major banks, controlled the movement of capital and the creation of debt in America. According to Jones, Sidney Weinberg, Frank Altshul and General Lucius Clay werethree of those men in the 1930s, '40s, '50s, and '60s. The fourth was Eugene Meyer, Jr. whose father was a partner in the immensely powerful international bank, Lazard Freres. Today the Washington Post {and Newsweek} is controlled by Meyer Jr.'daughter Katharine Graham." CFR member (and former chairm of Citicorp) Walter Wriston's The Twilight of Sovereignty is published in which he declares that "The world can no longer be understood as a collection of national economies, (but) a single global economy. A truly global economy will require concessions of national power and compromises of national sovereignty that seemed impossible a few years ago and which even now we can but partly imagine. The global {information} network will be internationalists in their outlook and will approve and encourage the worldwide erosion of traditional sovereignty. The national and international agendas of nations are increasingly being set not by some grand government plan but by the media." He also spoke of "The new international financial system. A new world monetary standard...the new world money market...the new world communications network the new international monetary system," and he says "There is no escaping the system." Can you give me a example of this?, we asked? "The examples are numerous, but a few readily apparent are the stocks and bonds market, all forms of insurance, and the fractional reserve system practiced by the Federal Reserve corporation, not to mention the billions in gold and silver that we have gained in exchange for paper notes, stupidly called money. Money power was essential in carrying out our master plan of international conquest through propaganda." When asked how they proposed doing this, he said: "At first, by controlling the banking system we were able to control corporation capital. Through this, we acquired total monopoly of the movie industry, the radio networks and the newly developing television media. The printing industry, newspapers, periodicals and technical journals had already fallen into our hands. The richest plum was later to come when we took over the publication of all school materials. Through these vehicles we could mold public opinion to suit our own purposes. The people are only stupid pigs that grunt and squeal the chants we give them, whether they be truth or lies."
Mind Control and Condititoning When asked if the Jews felt any threat from the 'silent majority,' he laughed at the idea, saying: "There is no such thing as the silent majority because we control their cry and hue. The only thing that exists is an unthinking majority and unthinking they will remain, as long as their escape from our rigorous service is the opiate of our entertainment industry. By controlling industry, we have become the task masters and the people the slaves. When the pressure of daily toil builds to an explosive degree, we have provided the safety valve of momentary pleasure. The television and movie industries furnish the necessary temporary distraction. These programs are carefully designed to appeal to the sensuous emotions, never to the logical thinking mind. Because of this, the people are programmed to respond according to our dictates, not according to reason. Silent they never are; unthinking they will remain." Note: "Our task is not to tell the truth; we are opinion moulders." (Walter Cronkite). "The greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our government." (Charles A. Lindberg, Speech at Des Moines, Iowa, September 11, 1941). "It is necessary to gain the common people to our order. The best means to that end is influence in the schools." (The Jewish Founder of the Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt) "A mind that is positive cannot be controlled. For the purpose of occult dominion, minds must therefore be rendered passive and negative in order that control may be achieved.Minds consciously working to a definite end are a power for good or for evil." (Occult Theocracy, p. 581) All national TV networks have become predominated by Jewish influence. One need only to analyze the demoralizing and mindless trend of TV programming over the years to verify this.Continuing his thought of Jewish control over the goy, Mr. Rosenthal said: "We have castrated society through fear and intimidation. Its manhood exists only in combination with a feminine outward appearance. Being so neutered, the populace has become docile and easily ruled. As all geldings in nature, their thoughts are not involved with the concerns of the future and their posterity, but only with the present toil and the next meal."(l5)
Note: 15) This manner of thinking has been greatly supported by the appealing but non-Biblical doctrine of the rapture, which allows an escape from the responsibility of establishing God's will and law here on earth. The rapture is a Jewish doctrine made for the gullible 'goy.'
Manipulation of Labor and Industry It was obvious that the excitement of Mr. Rosenthal was triggered, when mention was made of the nation's industry. "We have been successful in dividing society against itself by pitting labor against management. (l6) This perhaps has been one of our greatest feats, since in reality it is a triangle, though only two points ever seem to occur. In modern industry where exists capital, which force we represent, is the apex. Both management and labor are on the base of this triangle. They continually stand opposed to each other and their attention is never directed to the head of their problem. Management is forced to raise prices since we are ever increasing the cost of capital. Labor must have increasing wages and management must have higher prices, thus creating a vicious cycle. We are never called to task for our role which is the real reason for inflation, since the conflict between management and labor is so severe that neither has time to observe our activities. It is our increase in the cost of capital that causes the inflation cycle. We do not labor or manage, and yet we receive the profits. Through our money manipulation, the capital that we supply industry costs us nothing. Through our national bank, the Federal Reserve, we extend book credit which we create from nothing. to all local banks who are member banks. They in turn extend book credit to industry. Thus, we do more than God, for all of our wealth is created from nothing. You look shocked! Don't be! It's true, we actually do more than God. With this supposed capital we bring industry, management and labor into our debt, which debt only increases and is never liquidated. Through this continual increase, we are able to pit management against labor so they will never unite and attack us and usher in a debt-free industrial utopia. "We are the necessary element since we expend nothing. Management can create its own capital and keep the cream - the profits. Its business would grow and profits increase. Labor would prosper as well, while the price of the product would remain constant, the prosperity of industry, labor and management would continually increase. We Jews glory in the fact that the stupid goy have never realized that we are the parasites consuming an increasing portion of production while the producers are continually receiving less and less." Note: 16) The social-labor movement, employing labor unions, a manipulation of wages and prices, and government regulation of business, was the brainchild of Jews such as Karl Marx and Samuel Gompers. The result was a destruction of free enterprise.
The Control Over Religion As the hours rolled on in this intense, but cordial interview, Mr. Rosenthal exposed his thoughts concerning religion. "Religion too, must be taught, and through this necessity we have labored. (17) With our control of the text book industry and the news media, we have been able to hold ourselves up as the authorities on religion. Many of our rabbis now hold professorships in supposed Christian theological seminaries. We are amazed by the Christians' stupidity in receiving our teachings and propagating them as their own. (l8) Judaism is not only the teaching of the synagogue, but also the doctrine of every 'Christian Church' in America. Through our propaganda the Church has become our most avid supporter. This has even given us a special place in society, their believing the lie that we are the 'chosen people' and they, gentiles. "These deluded children of the Church defend us to the point of destroying their own culture. (l9) This truth is evident even to the dullard when one views history and sees that all wars have been white fighting white in order that we maintain our control. We controlled England during the Revolutionary War, the North during the Civil War, and England and America during World War I and II. Through our influence of religion we were able to involve the ignorant white Christians in war against themselves which always impoverished both sides while we reaped a financial and political harvest. Anytime truth comes forth which exposes us, we simply rally our forces - the ignorant Christians. They attack the crusaders even if they are members of their own families. (20) Note: (17) As the Jew Karl Marx stated: "Religion is the opiate of the people. " (18) This is one of the main reasons for the power and the control Jews have attained over white nations-the adopting of Jewish ways. As Henry Ford stated "The Christian cannot read his Bible except through Jewish spectacles, and, therefore, reads it wrong" (The International Jew, Vol. IV, p. 238). As a result, Christians don't have God's word on a certain matter, they have the Jew's word. (19)Jews need not have their finger on every button that causes a destruction or a Judaization of Christian civilization, as in many cases they have their proselytes or "Gentile fronts" to do it for them. 19. 20. Anyone who has been in the forefront exposing the truth of the Jewish issue can attest to this fact stated by Mr. Rosenthal. Rosenthal: "Through religion we have gained complete control of society, government and economics. No law is ever passed except its merits have previously been taught from the pulpits. An example of this is race equality which led to integration and ultimately to mongrelization. The gullible clergy in one breath instruct their parishioners that we are a special, chosen people while in another breath proclaim all races are the same. Their inconsistency is never discovered. So we Jews enjoy a special place in society while all other races are reduced to common equality. It is for this reason that we authored the equality hoax, thereby reducing all to a lower level. "We have been taught that our current economic practices are benevolent therefore Christian. These pulpit parrots extol our goodness for loaning them the money to build their temples, never realizing that their own holy book condemns all usury. They are eager to pay our exorbitant interest rates. They have led society into our control through the same practice. Politically, they hail the blessings of democracy and never understand that through democracy we have gained control of their nation. Their book (2l) again teaches a benevolent despotic form of government in accordance with the laws of that book, while a democracy is a mob rule which we control through their Churches, our news media and economic institutions. Their religion is only another channel through which we can direct the power of our propaganda. These religious puppets stupidity is only exceeded by their cowardice, for they are ruled easily." Note: (21) Notice that Mr Rosenthal always refers to the Bible as their (the white people's) book, never as our book or the Jews' book.
The Light Dawns Rarely does any man confess the intimacy of his soul as did Mr. Rosenthal. Hindsight suggests that there was a greater force compelling this man to reveal what has been written here. The remainder of the interview seems to confirm this. Rosenthal: "Since we do not believe in a life after death, all our efforts are directed to the 'now.' We are not as foolish as you and will never adopt an ideology that is rooted in self-sacrifice. Whereas you will live and die for the benefit of the community,we will live and die only for our own individual self. The idea of self-sacrifice is abhorred by Jews. It is abhorrent to me. No cause is worth dying for, since death is the end. The only time we unite is to preserve our individual selves. As a group of wolves unite to attack a prey, but then disperse after each is filled, so we Jews unite when peril is pending, not to preserve our community but to save our own skin. "This attitude permeates our entire being and philosophy. We are not the creators for to create would only benefit another. (22) We are the 'acquirers' and are interested only in satisfying the 'self.' To understand our philosophy would be to understand the term 'to get.' We never give but only take. We never labor but enjoy the fruits of others' labor. We do not create but confiscate. We are not the producers but the parasites. We can physically live within any society, but always remain spiritually apart. To work would be to produce and the highest form of that labor would be to create. Your race has always worked for the satisfaction of what it produces. We would never work for anyone's' benefit, only for what we can get. We have used this Aryan attitude to achieve our greatest prosperity. You will work for the enjoyment you derive out of producing, while never being concerned about the pay. We take your productivity for a paltry fee and turn it into fortunes. Note: (22) This Talmudic thought, is also seen in the Protocols of Zion. Notice that Mr. Rosenthal has several times referred to his people, the Jews, as "parasites. This quality of parasitism has been revealed by other Jews as well, showing how Jews live off the labors of others devouring the foundation of the host nation; as Christ said, "you devour widow's houses" (Matt. 23:14). "[Jews were] fomenting a general plague on the whole world." (Claudis, Roman Emperor, Epistolas). "[Jews] ate the English nation to its bones." (John Speed, British Historian, in Historie of Great Britaine). "The Jews are the master robbers of the modern age." (Napoleon Bonaparte) The Jews are the most hateful and the most shameful of the small nations." (Voltaire, God and His Men)
Rosenthal: "Until recently, the pride of workmanship exceeded the quest for high incomes. However, we have been able to enslave society to our own power which is money, by causing them to seek after it. We have converted the people to our philosophy of getting and acquiring so that they will never be satisfied. A dissatisfied people are the pawns in our game of world conquest. Thus, they are always seeking and never able to find satisfaction. The very moment they seek happiness outside themselves, they become our willing servants. "Your people never realize that we offer them only worthless baubles that can not bring fulfillment. They procure one and consume it and are not filled. We present another. We have provided an infinite number of outward distractions, to the extent that life can not again turn inward to find its definite fulfillment. You have become addicted to our medicine through which we have become your absolute masters. (23) "On the first and fundamental lie, the purpose of which is to make people believe that we are not a nation but a religion, other lies are subsequently based. Our greatest fear is that this falsehood will be discovered, for we will be stamped out the moment the general public comes into possession of the truth and acts upon it. (24) It is becoming apparent that an awakening is occurring even here in America. we had hoped that through our devastation of Christian Germany that any subject dealing with us would be a fearful taboo. However, there seems to be a resurgence here in the one nation that we so strongly control. We are presently making plans for a rapid exodus. We know that when the light begins to dawn, there will be no stopping it. All efforts on our part will only intensify that light and draw focus upon it. "We fear that light is coming forth in movements across this land, especially yours. It has amazed us how you have been successful in reaching the people after we closed every door of communication. This, we fear, is a sign of a coming pogrom that will take place in America soon.(25) The American public has realized that we are in control, which is a fatal mistake on our part. This nation could never be the land of the free as long as it is the land of the Jew. (26) This is the revelation that will be our undoing. "The American people have been easily ruled through our propaganda that the pen is mightier than the sword. We virtually get away with murder, and all the goy do is to talk about it, which is ineffective since we, the masters of propaganda, always publish a contradicting account. If the Aryan would review history and apply those lessons of the past, then the pen will be thrown down in disgust and the sword wielded in the heat of passion. (27) Thus far, we have escaped the sword, when the only reprisal is some periodical of no repute, or some pamphlet with limited circulation. Their pen is no match for ours, but our constant fear is that they may open their eyes and learn that no change was ever brought about with a pen. History has been written in blood not with ink. No letter, editorial or book has ever rallied the people or stopped tyranny. We understand this principle and are continually propagandizing the people to write letters to the President, to Congress and to their local media. We are safe to continually exploit, intimidate and disenfranchise the white American as long as they are preoccupied with the illusion of educating the masses through printed material. Woe be unto us if they ever see the futility of it, lay down the pen and employ the sword. Notes: (23) For this reason Christ said, "beware of the leaven of the Pharisees" (Matt. 16:6). This was a warning against their Talmudic-Babylonian doctrines, which grow in men's minds and permeates throughout society, until this philosophy finally enslaves them (Col. 2:8). (24) It is one thing to put a man in possession of the truth, yet it is another to get him to understand it, and to get him to act upon it is another still. Truth by itself has no value unless used or applied in some way. (25) A pogrom is a retaliation and massacre of a group of people. This pogrom may well be noted in the Bible in the fall of 'Mystery Babylon' (Rev. 18), or in the destruction of Gog (Ezek. 39), or Edom (Obad.). (26) This is a concept most patriots cannot understand. Patriots have spent untold man-hours fighting the IRS, the Federal Reserve, the media, Congress or government in general These things are merely tools which the Jew now uses against the detestable 'goyim'. The problem is not the tool or device, but the heathen in control of it. (27) A recurrence to history would edify our minds and show us that the European countries solved their Jewish problem only by use of force and physical expulsion. "History confirms the fact that the passions of an aroused minority, no matter how small a group, have exerted enough power to topple the greatest empire. The movements that control destiny are not those that rest on the inactive majority; but on the sheer force of an active minority. Will is power, not numbers, for a strong Will will always rule the masses!" (28) "Again, we are safe as long as our Will is stronger, or the Will of the people is misdirected, scattered and without leadership. We will never be deposed with words, only force!" (29) The wisdom of Mr. Harold Rosenthal has been set forth truthfully and accurately. The question now to you is, WHAT CAN YOU DO TO PROTECT THE NATION AND EVERY CITIZEN FROM THE ABOVE POTENTIALS???? Those of us who have been in this battle to save our once great nation for so many years possibly become calloused, not too sensitive to the horrible things going on around us. I must admit however, that the FACTS as conveyed by Harold Wallace Rosenthal have made their impact on this writer. The interview, or perhaps a better word might be confession, has helped to bring to the surface a reality of what we veterans have known for years, but the stark reality of Jewish treachery becomes more shocking when getting it ALL in one package. Mr. Rosenthal, a former influential Jew in his own right, prided himself in being a vital part of the admitted controlof the media, and of their invisible government in which no political power is exercised without Jewish approval. Let us also highlight the other key remarks of Mr. Rosenthal: Note: (28) In examining the extent of Jewish power and control over America Henry Ford stated this control "can be explained only by the Jewish Will to Power." The International Jew, (1920) Vol. 1, p. 210. (29) Would this not be the logical and proper course of action required to rid the land of any type of invader or hostile enemy? That the American people have no guts and the Jews sneer at their stupidity. The Jews' power through their money and the money power afford them a "master plan" for international conquest through propaganda. There is in America an "unthinking majority." The Jews' treachery of pitting labor against management. · The Jewish belief that Christ was just another man on the earth. That Jews are admitted parasites who have gained controlof our society, government and economics through their religion . The myth of the Jews being the "chosen people." The confessed "big lie" that the Jews are a religion and not a nation. That the Jews fear being discovered for what they are. We are beginning to uncover the whole conspiracy on the part of the Communists and World Zionism to capture control of our nation, and the Jews and their prostituted media are beginning to admit, as Mr. Rosenthal said, that we have them on the run. Believe us, dear reader, it will be a shock to the Jewish world when this gets into circulation and they discover we have our hands on this 'first hand' information from a Jew who was formerly respected in high government office, and it is this Report that could 'trip the miracle.' If, with your help, we can get this material distributed in the hands of citizens and even in government offices throughout the country, it might help bring about the desired 'action.' As you have observed, the jew conspiracy is to reduce our population to a subservient obedience designed to groom us for a Jew-controlled, international, money-changing dictatorship designed by Jewish-Zionists and Communists. This is occurring and will continue if the American public allows itself to be so subdued. (30) These One World subverters who have been running our bureaucracy in Washington have permitted over 12,000,000 aliens to come into this country illegally from all the nations of the world including China and Mexico and all nations in between. They are holding IOUs which amounts to more than the number of people we have unemployed. Note:(30) The ignorance and apathy of the people have been an open invitation to the Jew to ensnare them in their socialist plans. This manuscript can act as a weapon with which we will open the eyes of the masses. They know something is wrong but they do not know what to do. NOW we can show them. Only by knowing the truth of the problems can a proper course of action be made. Thus the importance of circulating this evidence to tens of thousands is necessary so a victory could be within our grasp. Although it is a lengthy manuscript, its contents will hold the attention of almost any reader. Why? Because it affects every man woman and child in America. Yes, even throughout the world. IT IS THAT IMPORTANT! There cannot ever be another document of such vital importance. This has to do with life and death truth. The revelations in this document are shocking and unbelievable to the innocent who can scarcely imagine such self-confessed evil ambitions. Mr. Rosenthal appeared to take great pride in being able to disclose some of their inner, untold secrets - all of which unfolds as we listen to every word spoken (mine and his) during the lengthy interview (Walter White's interview with Harold Rosenthal) which is recorded on cassette tapes as our documentation. The Jewish nation is the enemy of ALL nations. They have already become hysterical since this document was brought to their attention. God save us! And that appeal to God is not an idle gesture. My Christian faith remains intact. "God save our nation," even if at present we are prisoners of a propaganda monopoly by a handful of subverters and manipulators. We can, with His help, lift the yoke and break the bonds so that our majority by righteous representation, can assert itself in following the freedom under our United States Constitution . (31) At the time of my interview with Mr. Rosenthal, I knew it was powerfully potent and I had an overwhelming confidence in its content to arouse and awaken many who formerly disbelieved. It is interesting how the Rosenthal document confirms the theme of the "Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion." It might be called "Personalized Protocols---1979 Edition." Anyone who does not know that the organized Jew is the instigator of World Communism, of International Zionism, and is in a conspiracy to destroy Christian civilization, is too naive and too ignorant to deal with the problems we face. The Christ-hating Jew who conspires against our Christian Heritage, enjoys nothing better than the conservative who protects the Jew and will talk about everything dangerous to our country except the Hidden Hand of the Jew conspirators, the root of all evil which threatens Christian civilization. (32) Note:(31) God has a plan for a nation to follow to free it from alien captivity - "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." 2 Chr 7:14, also Deut 30:1-4, I Kings 8:33-34. (32)While it is "the love of money" which "is the root of all evil" (1 Tim. 6:10), the Jew exhibits, far above other peoples, a love of money; and have an instinctive and compelling desire for attaining as much wealth as possible regardless of the means or harm it may cause. 32. THE HIDDEN TYRANNY Part Two "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." The above is an exact quote of Harold Wallace Rosenthal, former top Administrative Aide to the then Senator Jacob Javits, who was since defeated in the 1980 election. I, Walter White, Jr., for the past 17 years Director and Editor of the monthly conservative publication WESTERN FRONT, was told about Mr. Rosenthal's boastings around Washington, D.C. and I was encouraged to meet with him and to interview him (for a fee). Mr.Rosenthal had stated publicly that the jews will completely dominate throughout the ENTIRE WORLD - and that they control every facet of political life in America and every aspect of the communication media. (Mr. R's emphasis). Eventually Mr. Rosenthal and I were brought together, at which time I interviewed him privately and taped said interview with Mr. Rosenthal's knowledge and consent. During the lengthy meeting Mr. Rosenthal became impatient, rude and vulgar (all of which is recorded on the tape) and he sought the balance of his fee before I had concluded my questioning. Since the entire interview was so lengthy, in 1977 we released and published only the first portion under the same title as above "THE HIDDEN TYRANNY." Copies of this manuscript (Part 1) have been sought by people from all around the globe. We now release the balance of the taped interview as Part Two. Although I do not wish to digress, an Eastern analyst has told me that "The Hidden Tyranny" manuscript (Part 1) has had a pass-on readership of 3.5%. Thus, if true, the manuscript (Part 1) has been read by more than 7 MILLION people. When this final portion (Part Two) begins circulating, its impact may be even greater. It depends upon you, the reader. Before any agreement was reached between us, I had established with Mr. Rosenthal that he would answer an unlimited number of questions with complete honesty and to the best of his ability. It was because of this understanding that I took issue with Mr. Rosenthal during the final stages of the interview and accused him of not being honest with me as it related to his response to my question: "Do you have knowledge of WHEN and WHY the story began about the jews being God's chosen people?" That is when he said in part: "Most jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer - so I wasn't lying - and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive." As this goes to press, we still seek a governmental body to investigate Harold Rosenthal's allegations. My dictionary conveys such allegations as "TREASON." We now pick up after a dispute during which the tape recorder has been turned off. Obviously where the "W" appears, those are my words. Where the "R" appears, that indicates Mr. Rosenthal's comment. W: Mr. Rosenthal, when true history is permitted to be published at large - when the truth actually surfaces - what do you expect the people of the world will do to you Jews? R: I thought we had concluded this interview. W: I'm concerned - and this question seems to require your answer. R: We were all finished White, and now you start to pump me again. I've already given you the 'tables of stone' and yet you want more. W: What does that mean? 'Tables of stone'? R: Never mind - you wouldn't understand anyway - you Christians ! ! ! W: So now you damn me because I'm a Christian. I thought we had tried to keep this on a businesslike basis did we not? R: (Mumbled exclamation by Rosenthal!!) W: Whatever that is - or means, you're using words I've never heard before. Are you speaking English? R: I said _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _. W: Will you spell it? R: (Rosenthal spells M-I-S-C-H-N-A-H and briefly says it is from the basics of the Talmud). Mr. R. continues: Let's not dwell on this. We're not getting anywhere - besides we had concluded things and that ends our agreement. W: Are you afraid to answer the question I posed? R: Who the hell do you think I am - I'm not afraid to answer any question but I've given you enough information for a book. W: Did I not pay you as per our agreement? R: Yeah - sure - but again you're wanting more. All right,you want my opinion as to what the people of the world are going to think when history is written. W: Well, I didn't pose the question exactly like that, but go ahead. R: I don't give a damn what the people will think. Besides, whenever that happens you and I will be dead. Plain dead. Does that satisfy you? W: There are two or three questions among my notes here Mr. Rosenthal which have yet to be answered and one is quite important. R: What is that? W: The story about the six million jews supposedly cremated or murdered by the Nazis. R: What about it? W: Do you know who or what Jewish organization created that big lie? R: No, I don't know anything about its authenticity. I don't think it's too important anyway. W: Mr. Rosenthal, you know better than that. What about the younger generation who is growing up believing this big lie? And you say it's not important!! R: It was an outgrowth of the war and we all know that Hitler hated the Jews so someone, somewhere, thought of exaggerating the number. We know that many, many Jews were killed by the Nazis. W: I'm sure you know that when World War II broke out there were less than a quarter of a million Jews in ALL of Germany. Many thousands had already left Germany. R: So what? As I said before, the Jewish people are the cleverest people in the world. So somebody thought up a big number and perhaps it grew until now the number of jews killed is six million. We have control of the news media and that is the great difference. Otherwise your people could tell YOUR big lie. Note: "The holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, eventually the destruction of the natural elite among a people. Transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who will cow-tow to the Jews." (S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, 1979) W: So you brush it off that lightly. Something of such enormity... Mr. R. interrupted here saying - My people have been taught to give consideration and attention to our teachers rather than to the words of your people and laws. W: You're living in America, Mr. Rosenthal. It is our duty to uphold the laws of our Country. Your religion teaches you that you may take an oath such as when being inducted into political office - and if the oath displeases you, you can deny silently the fact you have taken that oath. Now I have copies of the Jewish document - called the Kol Nidre and I have proven their authenticity. (33) Note:(33) The Kol Nidre ("all vows") is found in the Talmud book Nedarim (Vows), and is recited each year in the synagogue on the Day of Atonement. It allows all future obligations, oaths or pledges a Jew may engage in to "be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect." This allows Jews to lie, subvert, cheat, and deceive others. R: Well - all Jews don't practice that oath business, I'm sure. W: But they do practice it, do they not - with the Rabbi's approval. R: To some extent. Perhaps when it is helpful to the individual. W: Is that not sinful? R: Maybe to your way of thinking. I've told you - you and I are different. We are different people. Our beliefs are entirely different. We have been raised that way for many centuries so it is not a sin for us to take any oath and break it. It's our teaching. (34) W: I've possibly saved the most important question of all until now. R: Listen, White, if you're going on any further, my time is money. We made an agreement and you're extending it beyond reason. You have it all on tapes and remember that we agreed for you to take whatever you want from the tapes and your notes - but no reproduction of the tapes under any circumstances. They are to be destroyed. If you violate this White, we'll cut your balls off. W: Who are WE? R: Just get smart and you'll find out. You don't want any trouble and I don't either. You keep our agreement and no one gets hurt!! Now give me the rest of my money. Okay? W: I intend to keep our agreement to the letter and you have my word of honor that these tapes will not go any further than my use in the preparation of the story. There is no misunderstanding. We agree on that and I'll keep my word. You'll get your money in a minute. R: I have friends White - I know a lot of people and I don't want them to be reading things attributed to me that I didn't say. I don't give a damn what you or anybody else thinks - but I don't want lies printed - only the questions and answers of this interview. Note:(34) This point on the difference of character has been made by many other Jewish writers and statesmen, and is well supported in history and science. Yet, ironically, Christians continue to believe the Jewish lie that "we are all the same" or "equal." W: We understand each other perfectly in that regard, Mr. Rosenthal. Now, please, this question!! R: Shoot. But remember I need Las Vegas money. W: Surely you must know somewhere in your schooling, or you have some kind of personal feeling or understanding as to when and why the story began that the Jews are God's Chosen People. R: We ARE God's chosen people. W: Do you really believe that Mr. Rosenthal? R: Maybe, I can explain or perhaps Jake could give you a better answer . .. . W: Who is Jake? R: Jake Javits - you know, my associate. He's the man that I work for and he's a pretty smart guy. Plenty smart. His answer might serve your purpose for the story better. W: I want your answer! R: You and we actually have a different God. W: Is that the answer to the Jews being God's chosen people? R: To our god we are chosen ones. We are taught that from our childhood. W: That is an evasive answer. You know what I mean when I pose such a question and I don't believe your reply or your explanation. R: Okay. I don't give a damn what you believe. W: Do your people believe that Jesus Christ was a Jew? R: Hell! We're not going back to that again are we? We've already gone over that. W: That was before the tape machine was ever turned on. I don't think we recorded your reply to this question. R: Well, I can't answer for all jews. I guess you're asking what Jews throughout the world believe? W: Yes. R: Jake could answer that better than I. W: Please, I don't want Senator Javits' answer to anything. I want your answer. R: White, I know what you're searching for. I've known from the beginning but that's all right. You and we are so apart. You're another breed. You're not our kind. It's not secret that we do not respect you and of your kind. W: Are you referring to just our kind as 'Christians'? R: No, you gentiles all of you are our enemies. When I was a little boy, just a kid, very young, we were taught very wisely. Many centuries ago when the Jews were persecuted in almost every country and driven out of so many countries - some of the governments, I cannot remember exactly whether it was the government of France or Spain. Anyway, the government demanded that the jews must become Christians or be expelled from the country. W: Yes, I recall reading of this many times. RS: Was it France or Spain. W: Possibly both but I vividly remember the story of Queen Isabella of Spain how patient she was with the Jews always giving them the benefit of doubt until such time as her eyes were opened completely to the deceptions of the jews. But please go on. R: Anyway, the jews at that time had a very wise Rabbi leader, a world leader, and his advice was respected throughout the world. He said that the jews must pretend to become Christians and bide their time and make real sacrifices if necessary. We have always been ready to sacrifice a few thousand jews in exchange for world leadership. (35) It is a small price and there is nothing wrong with that. I was taught that we jews must become lawyers so we could control and strangle the courts, and even the judges, unless they were jews. We should become doctors and teachers and leaders in all the churches - and this goal has almost been fully accomplished. I said it before and I'll say it now_that we will have complete, I say complete control, throughout the entire world possibly before I die. We are very successful in keeping you gentiles confused. We create confusion. (36) You're not stupid White. You know that the Jews are successful because of our unity. We die for one another if necessary. We generously finance our own, so it is understandable how we govern not only in this country. We direct American foreign affairs. We are the super government of the world. Is that enough? Note:(35) This was the plan of the Jews who instigated WW Il. Some Jews were sacrificed so that the "persecution" propaganda could continue. "World War II was a Zionist plot to make way for the foundation of the Jewish State in Palestine." (Joseph Burg, an anti-Zionist Jew). "All Jews world wide declared war on the Third Reich." (The London Daily Express, Front Page Story, 3/24/1933). W: Go on. I find what you are saying most interesting. Please go on. R: We are the most Powerful international body of people in the world!! Do you believe that? W: You speak with such confidence that I . . . Mr. R. interrupted - We can destroy any country's economy. Without their even being aware of it - if we want to. I think this is what you want to hear. (37) W: I'm expecting you to be truthful with me Mr. Rosenthal. R: Well, it's true. We're smart - we are powerful and at the proper time we will mix up your gentile women with the Blacks and in 50 years you'll be all mixed up. Niggers love to screw your white women and we encourage it by using them to our advantage. W: I recall your saying that the Blacks serve a purpose. R: Yes, we will use them to a great advantage. (38) W: And try to destroy them after you have used them I presume? R: If necessary. Yes! You and I know they're inferior people,a dumb race, but can be useful with the use of money. I mean REAL BIG MONEY. Niggers will do anything for money. So, when the time comes - and you might even live to see it - we will have that complete control while you stupid Christians are waiting for your Christ, the impostor, to return as your savior. Notes:(36) The word 'Babylon' in Hebrew is Babel and means confusion. The Jews are masters at confusion because they are the ringleaders of the system known as "Mystery Babylon." (37) Most Americans are totally unaware that by the Federal Reserve system their money has been stolen and the economy debauched. (38) It was primarily by Jewish merchant ships and Jewish run slave auctions that the blacks got to America. W: You sound bitter. R: Not at all. Why should I be bitter? We are on top!! W: And when this whole sordid story becomes known, the result will be an aroused citizenry - an angry citizenry who will want to destroy you. R: How? I ask you how? YOU can't reach the people. We have it all under such control that no one-no one or no-body can reach the people unless it is done through our media control. We have it sewed up! ! We have infected your churches completely and we now control the school system in the United States. It is a reality that we have complete control of organized Christianity. Almost anywhere - completely. W: I find so many things you say to be repulsive. The way you say things... R: It's what you wanted to hear or you wouldn't have paid good money for the interview. W: So long as you are truthful with me - but you still haven'tanswered the question I posed long back - do you believe that Jesus Christ was a Jew? R: As I said, Jake could give you a really intelligent answer. I know that most of our friends, kids and people I grew up with, in fact all our friends - I'd say all of them, don't believe that Jesus was a Jew. He was an impostor and millions of people all over the world now believe that Christianity was founded on untruth - deliberate incorrect translations of your Bible. Christ was a fraud. Even the National Council of Churches agree that there were false translations of the book your people respect. It's built on lies. (39) Note:(39) This comment can hardly be regarded as coming from a true Christian source since the National Council of Churches was organized by Jews and its theology is controlled by them. W: According to the latest scholarly research, your ancestors are not Israelites but Mongolians and Asiatics from Eastern Europe and Western Asia, so your ancestors were thousands of miles from the Holy Land. They never, ever saw the Holy Land - proving that your people were not the chosen people of God. R: So what? What difference does it make? W: We have been taught the big lie for many years that Jews are God's Chosen people, so it does make a difference. A very grave difference. R: What grave difference? W: Does it not prove that the great majority of Jews today are Khazar in origin. Your ancestors never trod the lands where Christ walked. They never knew Jerusalem and Palestine, so how could . . . (Mr. R. interrupted) R: (shouting) What the hell difference does it make now? W: I find so many things that you have said as being repulsive and your arrogant manner in boasting, as it were, to admittedly being a part of this gigantic . . . this heinous plot against mankind - and at times, you attempt to brush things off by saying 'what difference does it make'. So much of what you have admitted staggers me, in fact, I lack the words . . .(Mr. R. interrupts here). R: That's because you're a gentile. You don't understand. You never will! Until it's too late and my hope, personally, is that the American people do not . . . (Mr. R. paused here). W: There is so much of what you have said, that as an individual, people may not believe you - they may not believe this interview . . .(Mr. R. interrupts). R: That is why we have the control today. One of the biggest reasons. Your people did not believe that it was possible for any people or race to accomplish what we have within a couple of hundred years. The gentile is stupid. WE are intelligent. I am going to be a very important person in and around Washington and soon. I intend to become nationally prominent. You are going to hear and read about me in the future. I'm young and have had the guts to tell you more than any other Jew would ever dare to tell you - at least publicly. I've stuck my neck out White. Some of what I have told you is part of the inner, inner invisible world of Jewry. W: Looking at you now as I denote your change, I see you as a despicable bastard - all of you . . . (Mr. R. interrupts). R: No one calls me a bastard and gets away with it!! W: You are all contemptible, base and detestable . . .
R: I'll knock your God damn head off if you call me a bastard... W: I wouldn't try it if I were you. I too have friends, many of them who would like the chance to get to you so let's keep this on a formal basis as it was intended at the beginning. (Mr. R.then said something which I asked him to spell. He spelled O-Y V-A-Y, Oy Vay, and added oy vay iz mir, and when asked what it meant he said I would not understand, but I am including it here because it is on the tape. W: Many times when referring to a person being a jew I have heard it said, 'Well, I understand he is a Presbyterian or a Catholic.' So, I would like your opinion or explanation. How do jews feel about another jew who becomes a Christian Scientist or converts to any other religion? Is he or she no longer a Jew? R: That can best be answered_well let me put it this way. I don't know what your mother and father were - what nationality I mean . . . W: My father was British-English, and my mother was German. R: Well, if you decided to study Zionism or the Talmud or actually wanted to become converted and attended the synagogue -would that erase your English or German heritage? W: Of course not - but I wanted to hear it from a learned jew. What you have said then is that he or she is always a jew. R: It's stupid - stupid. We are what we are! No mater what we join or adopt it doesn't change what we ARE. I am a jew and nothing can change me because I take up another religion. Such stupidity!! (40) W: But the Jews are a great part of this deceit. R: We have a talent for confusing your issues. W: You are masters of deceit and this cunning practice of yours has allowed your people to infiltrate the governments throughout the world. R: Why not? Why shouldn't we take over the banks, the universities, the church and the government if the gentiles are not intelligent enough to run them? I could not have talked this way a few years ago but now it is different. There is nothing to undo our strategy in the world today so I can speak much more freely. What I've disclosed may help other jews to speak out if they have any guts. We are not a pusillanimous race. W: You're very sure of yourself and your people aren't you? R: We may be divided in many things, but nothing ever actually separates us. W: Who is WE? R: My people, the Jews are 'as one' when it counts most. No incident can ever divide us. (41) W: I have heard Jews fight each other with venom! R: Ahh, that's entirely different. Sure we will fight one another but as I say, when it counts most we're 'as one'. Our forte White is division and duplicity. It is an infallible weapon and we are skillful_perhaps perfectionists in its application. You don't have the intelligence to compete. Notes:(40) This concept is verified in Scripture by the rhetorical question: "Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?" And in the parable of the Tares and the Wheat we find that the Tares (the children of the wicked) are utterly destroyed. None are saved from the destroying fire, none are converted into Wheat. God is not going to change the Tares into something they never were. (41) Down throughout the centuries Jews have learned they cannot trust other people. Thus, the Jewish racial bond is their greatest power. W: But we have a culture that you Jews will never understand or equal.. Jews have a family life. Our culture requires a high standard in education. We establish standards so that our kids exceed that of their parents. Our people continue to show a dramatic educational advancement. Our kids' success doesn't depend entirely on schools but on the family and we are damn proud of these accomplishments. You can't compete! More than 12,000 doctors are graduated from medical schools in the United States every year and almost 10,000 of them are Jews. Among the law students the jewish percentage is even higher. Jews are on such a solid foundation here in the United States that any kind of opposition to our control would only be temporary. You know we laugh about the six million story just like the story that Christ was a jew and the God's Chosen People story. This should show people that we have a solidarity like none other in the world. Jews have a closeness to other jews whom they have never seen or perhaps even heard of.(42) W: Mr.Rosenthal, I hope you haven't lied to me in any of this interview because if you did we could retaliate on you. Understand? R: What I have told you is true - ALL of it. I don't need to lie... W: I have found the Jews' passion is greed, profit and the destruction of Christianity. Am I not correct? R: I cannot speak for all Jews. W: I'm speaking of the great majority of Jews. Am I right? R: Maybe most jews feel that way - but there's nothing wrong with that!! W: I think you just go on and on because there is a bitterness within you and perhaps you say things that even you do not believe. Some of the things you say are almost unbelievable. R: Well I don't give a good God damn what you believe. I've given you honest answers and opinions. Now no more questions. And don't forget our agreement - if I learn that the tapes are used other than what we agreed upon you will suffer serious consequences. Do you understand? W: I understand. And now Mr. Rosenthal, here is the balance of the money agreed upon for this interview. Note:(42) As it is said - "Blood is thicker than water. The End
Dear reader - after the tape machine had been turned off, I accused Harold Rosenthal of not living up to our agreement in replying truthfully to my question as to the Jews being God's Chosen people. He replied:
"We are god's chosen people, most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer, so I wasn't lying - and, we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive." I was stunned. I had no further comment. I had watched this arrogant, boastful person change at times like a chameleon that changes its color. Many times he showed a hatred - yes, even a venom. At the conclusion I felt unclean being around him. **The Hidden Tyranny Has Been Revealed** Much of what Harold Wallace Rosenthal said brought to the surface a reality, we veterans have known all along, but this "Jewish" treachery is more shocking when getting it all in one package. It has been alleged that Harold Rosenthal was killed because he talked too much so it is understandable, if true,in as much as he made such shocking statements years ago, that we now see as a reality !!!
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And quite timely someone emailed me this link: http://www.nazarite.net/home.html quote: INTRODUCTION - This Web-Site was built to bring believers to the truth by exposing some of the twisted man-made doctrines of modern Christianity also known as the Great Apostasy in Scripture. Many people, including myself have been victims of false doctrines taught by the mainstream Christian church. Most but not all of the traditional Sunday observant Christian churches practice and teach doctrines that are not Scriptural and are actually deeply rooted in pagan traditions, especially that which originated in pagan sun-worship.
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quote: Originally posted by David Merrill And Marty for Cornerstone Foundation said:
The writings of Paul at 1 Corinthians 15:12-20 do not leave that as an option for those who have the faith of Yahshua Messiah:
1 Corinthians 15:12-20 from the Book of Yahweh translation:
Now since it is preached that Messiah has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
For if there is no resurrection of the dead, neither has the Messiah been raised up.
And if Messiah has not been raised up, our preaching is useless, and your faith is also empty.
Yes, then we are found to be false witnesses of Yahweh, because we have presented testimony from Yahweh that He raised up Messiah-Whom He did not raise up if , in fact, the dead are not to be raised up-
For if the dead are not to be raised up, then Messiah has not been raised up.
And if Messiah has not been raised up, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins!
Then those also who have fallen asleep in Messiah have perished.
If in this life only we have hope in Messiah, then we are of all people most miserable.
But the fact is that Messiah has been raised from the dead, and has become the first one recalled to life of those who have fallen asleep.
************************************************* David Merrill wrote:
Notice Marty said "...faith of Yahshua [sic]* Messiah". Not faith "in" Yehoshuah Messiah. Anyone who believes the historical figure lived in the flesh has faith 'in' Jesus Christ. When Jesus Christ raised his eyes to heaven and prayed to God the Father, he is presumed to have had faith in God; that 100% conviction that he was not wasting his breath praying to the wind. That is the faith "of" Jesus Christ we would all hope for I am sure.
Now the premise by Paul's own words is that faith of Jesus Christ is worthless if one fails to accept the supernatural Resurrection.
Logically this presumes that Jesus knew 1) he was the Messiah of God and 2) he would be raised from the dead; logically also upon the model of Abraham sacrificing Isaac, his son. Since I agree with 1) we move on to 2).
Note that Isaac never passed that threshold of being 'bled out' like a lamb. The angel in the symbol stopped the execution before it was carried out. So it is not a true "Resurrection scenario", is it?
We agree that the incident where a ram was sacrificed rather than Isaac being sacrificed was not a true resurrection scenerio. We believe Yahweh did not intend for it to be a "resurrection scenerio".
Yahweh was making a point that he would provide the sacrifice so that the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Israyl would not have to sacrifice their first born sons.
It is our understanding that the scenerio referred to above concerning Abraham and Isaac is a true Passover scenerio rather than a true resurrection scenerio.
The ram being sacrificed (Genesis 22:13-14) instead of Abraham's only begotten son, in the Abraham-Sarah, line was a shadow from things to come....
First from the Passover scenerio in Egypt depicted in Exodus 12:1-8...
.....and ultimately a shadow from the sacrificing of the Lamb of Yahweh at Golgatha when Yahshua was executed... lay three days and three nights dead.... and was resurrected by the mighty hand of His Father, Yahweh who is the Ever-living Father of our ancestors Abraham, Isaac and Israyl.quote: At Genesis 22:14 the Scriptures say:
And Abraham called the name of that place Yahweh Yireh (Yahweh Will Provide); as it is said to this day: On the Mountain of Yahweh it will be provided.
That is a highly significant Scripture when one realizes....quote: that as the footnote for Genesis 22:2 in the Geneva Scriptures states:
Yahweh was being reverenced [by telling Abraham to sacrifice on Mount Moriyah] at the very place where He was to be honored. Later on, this would be the very place Solomon built the first temple.
This and many other happenings (too numerous to be mere coincidences) cause us to believe that Yahweh has been in control for a long time and still is. We trust Yahweh....and we thank Yahweh for providing Yahshua the ultimate Lamb of Yahweh...the one that all the other sacrifices were a shadow from.
There are numerous excellent examples of Scriptures from the Old Writings(Old Covenant, called by some 'Old Testament') that show evidence of a shadow cast from the resurrection of Yahshua Messiah. In the following article, Bertrand L. Comparet, expands on some of those in a most eloquent manner:
CHRISTIANITY IN THE OLD TESTAMENT
By
Bertrand L. Comparet
When you see some new machine with its shafts turning, gears spinning, motors humming, you can't understand what it is or what it does, until somebody shows you a plan of it. Similarly, you can't understand history and its climax, modern civilization, until you see a plan of it. The only such plan of history is in the Bible and it is amazingly complete. However, you can't understand this plan in the Bible, until you know who you are. You must learn the Bible was lived and written by your ancestors, written about you and written to you. The identity of the Anglo-Saxon, Scandinavian and Teutonic people as the Israel of the Bible is the only key to the whole book.
If somebody wrote a very exact history of the United States, but never used the name United States therein, always calling the nation in this history China, you couldn't make much sense out of it. As a history of China, it would be demonstrably false, it could never make good sense until you put the name of the right nation into it, however all the major churches have falsified the Bible. They have taken our history, the various prophecies about us and told us that all this was just about the Jews, which is an easily demonstrated falsehood. That is why any intelligent and well-educated atheist has always made a monkey out of any clergyman who has ever debated him on the Bible. The traditional church doctrines on the Bible are such easily exposed falsehoods.
The churches have taught us another falsehood. They have taught the Old Testament is a record of a different religion, the Jewish religion, which Yahweh tried out and found that He couldn't make it work. So, He had to abandon it and start a brand new religion Christianity, in the New Testament. In this, they have greatly slandered Yahweh.
In these lessons we have proven the Anglo-Saxon, Scandinavian and Teutonic people are the Israel of the Bible. We have proven this by showing you that these people and no others, especially not the Jews, fulfill the Bible prophecies about Israel. We have traced their migration through the writings of most of the recognized historians of those centuries.
You have heard me prove the New Testament is just as much an Israel book as is the Old Testament. We have reviewed the New Testament and showed that it was clearly speaking about and speaking to Israel. You have often heard me say that the Old Testament is just as much a Christian book as is the New Testament. Today, I shall begin the proof of the Christian content and character of the Old Testament. Yahweh our God was not mistaken when He inspired the prophets to write the Old Testament. It was not a failure, which He had to abandon and start all over again with a new, different religion. Yahweh was right the first time and His religion and His plan of the ages has always been the same, from the very beginning until this moment.
So we can recognize Christianity when we find it in the Old Testament, we must clarify our ideas about it. What is the essence of Christianity, expressed in a few words? Isn't it this, that man is responsible for his own actions. If he disobeys Yahweh, this disobedience is sin and the penalty of sin is death. Man must personally pay this penalty by his own death, unless someone pays it for him. But no other ordinary person could do this for you, because the other person is already under the death sentence for his own sins, and therefore could not die in your place. Therefore, Yahweh provided the only possible sacrifice, which could pay the penalty of you sins, Yahshua the Son of Yahweh, being perfect, and without sin, had no penalty of his own to pay. Therefore, when He gave His own life for us when He died on the cross, He paid all the penalty of our sins, so that we will not have to meet this penalty. If we accept this basis of our relationship to our God, openly confessing that Yahshua is our only Savior, then we have become acceptable to Yahweh, because sin no longer stands between Him and us. Instead of bearing the responsibility for our sins, we now have attributed to us the righteousness of Yahshua. This is Christianity; this is what we must now look for in the Old Testament.
The first promise of the coming of Yahshua our Redeemer, is found in Genesis 3:15. Yahweh has called Adam, Eve and Satan before Him, to give account of their misdeeds. Yahweh says to Satan, "I will put enmity between thee and the woman and between thy seed and her seed: He shall crush thy head and thou shalt bruise his heel." One, who is of the seed, or descendant of Eve, shall crush the power of Satan, but in doing so, He shall suffer from Satan's malice. However, the wound to Satan is far greater than the wound received by the Redeemer. We have seen this fulfilled in the crucifixion of Yahshua, a most terrible thing for Him to endure. By this and His resurrection, Yahshua totally and permanently broke the power of Satan to hold all men in his power through fear of death. The prophecy in Genesis 3:15 unmistakably applies to Yahshua, and is the first instance of Christianity in the Old Testament.
Note, this records Satan was to have as literal children as Eve. The same Hebrew word for seed, zerah, is used in the case of both Satan and Eve. One of Eve's descendants, which we know to be Yahshua, was to defeat Satan although suffering terribly in the process. Carefully note another thing, it is Yahweh who puts enmity between Satan's children and Eve's children. You know how Satan's children love to parrot the official Communist party line phrase and call us hate mongers". The Bible itself tells us that Yahweh commanded and created that enmity or hatred. As a matter of fact, it only appears as hatred among Satan's children. We don't hate them, we just detest the evil character shown by the wicked things they are constantly doing. Satan's children are today known as Jews, formerly they were known as Canaanites, Hittites, etc.
The Bible only records a very limited account of this conversation between Yahweh and Adam and Eve. However, it very clearly implies that at this time Yahweh clearly explained to them the entire plan of redemption, including the fact that He, Yahweh, would be the Redeemer coming in the form of a descendant of Eve.
Naturally Adam and Eve didn't like being under the curse, which came as a consequence of their disobedience of Yahweh, and they hoped that the curse would soon be ended. Since Yahweh had not explained to them how many generations it would be until He came as the promised Redeemer, Eve hoped that her first child Cain would be the Redeemer. This is concealed from you by the mistranslation in the King James Bible, which says this in Genesis 4:1. "She conceived and bore Cain and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord". In the Hebrew it reads, "She conceived and bore Cain and said, I have gotten a man even Yahweh." Eve thought that this, her first child, was Yahweh, God Himself come in the flesh as one of her descendants, to be the Redeemer of His children. This also is Christianity in the Old Testament. You will remember that in my lesson on "Who Is Your Savior?@ I gave the Biblical proof that Yahshua is Yahweh, come in the flesh to be our Savior and Redeemer.
We find further confirmation of this in Genesis 4:3-7 which tells us, "Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto Yahweh. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And Yahweh had respect unto Abel and to his offering: but unto Cain and to his offering He had not respect. And Cain was very wroth and his countenance fell. And Yahweh said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? And why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well, the sin offering lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire and thou shalt rule over him". Yes, I know the King James Bible says that sin lieth at the door, but the same Hebrew word means both the sin itself and the sin offering, the blood sacrifice. The two ideas were closely identified, the sin and the offering, which cleansed the sinner of his guilt.
Although Cain had herds and flocks of his own, he brought no blood sacrifice, just fruits and vegetables. He made no confession of sin, no prayer for pardon. He merely told Yahweh, "Landlord, here's your crop-rent" and then he wondered why Yahweh was not pleased by this! Abel knew sin would separate any man from Yahweh, and he could not become acceptable to Yahweh until cleansed of his sins. This was only by making the blood offering, to proclaim his faith in Yahweh's revelation that some day the Savior would die to pay the penalty of Abel's sins and he could become free from sin. Abel showed an understanding of the basic principles of Christianity nearly 4,000 years before the birth of Yahshua.
Hebrews 11:4 reminds us that Abel understood the need of the blood sacrifice, symbolic of his faith that the Savior would give His life to pay for Abel's sins. These incidents in the third and fourth chapters of Genesis occurred close to 4000 B.C. Moses wrote the book of Genesis, which tells of this, about 1446 B.C., and it is not the earliest book in the Bible. Although the book of Job was later assigned its place as the 18th book in the Bible, it was written about nine centuries before Moses lived. Its great age appears from the fact that it never mentions the law, which Yahweh gave to Moses, and nothing as important as the law would be omitted if the Book of Job had been written later. Job complains of his undeserved suffering and his friends assure him that suffering comes only as a just punishment, so Job must have done something very wicked to deserve such punishment. But, they never mention any law, which they think Job has broken. Also Job, who wrote the book, is mentioned in Genesis 10:29 as Jobab, Father Job, a great, great grandson of Shem and a grandson of Eber, from whom the people got the name Hebrews.
In all his suffering, Job never loses sight of the promise of the coming Redeemer. Even while he is wishing for death to put him out of his misery, in Job 19: 25-27, he says, "For I know that my Redeemer liveth and that He shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: and though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see Yahweh: Whom I shall see for myself and mine eyes shall behold, and not another."
Abraham also knew and expressed some of the basic ideas of Christianity. In Genesis 22:1-14 we read that Yahweh put Abraham to a severe test, He told Abraham to offer his beloved son Isaac, on the altar, as a burnt offering. Remember how much Isaac meant to Abraham. In addition to all the ordinary love of a father for his son, Yahweh had promised Abraham that the many great prophecies given to him would be fulfilled through Isaac. Then, when Isaac was still only a child, and none of the promises had yet been fulfilled, Yahweh suddenly commanded Abraham to sacrifice Isaac as a burnt offering! Did it mean that Yahweh had changed His mind and would not make good on His many promises? No, Abraham knew that Yahweh's word was always reliable. Therefore Yahweh would find a way to fulfill His promises that through Isaac would be born a number of nations, destined to demonstrate to the world the goodness of Yahweh.
Abraham started out with Isaac for the place where he was to offer up the sacrifice, going cheerfully, not in the awful grief of a father about to not only witness, but even to cause, the death of his beloved son. He went in the serene confidence of one who knew that his God was always faithful. It records. "Isaac spoke unto Abraham his father, and said, My father and he said, Here I am, my son. And he (Isaac) said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? And Abraham said, My son, Yahweh will provide Himself a lamb for a burnt offering."
Possibly his confidence might have been based in part upon the conviction that, if Yahweh did permit the death of Isaac, He would resurrect him, so that the promises would be fulfilled through Isaac. Remember that resurrection is a basic part of Christianity. By his own statement, Abraham also was calmly certain that Yahweh would intervene, providing a lamb for the sacrifice to be offered in place of Isaac, so that by the death of lamb, in his place, Isaac could be spared.This again, is the very essence of Christianity. In John 1:29 Yahshua is called the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. In Revelation 13:8 Yahshua is called, "The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Genesis 22 tells how Abraham's faith was justified. Yahweh stopped him before any harm could come to Isaac and provided a ram, caught in a nearby thicket, for the sacrifice.
Moses wrote this incident of Abraham and Isaac in the Book of Genesis. Do you think Moses did not know the significance of what he had written? Not at all, the Bible itself tells us Moses was a Christian, does that surprise you? Hebrews 11:24-26 records, "By faith, Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter: choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures of Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompense of the reward." Certainly you can't have faith in something you have never heard of. It is clear Moses knew the significance of the symbolism in the Old Testament rituals, which he told the people of Israel to use.
Christianity is the central theme of the Old Testament, especially in the writings of Moses and Isaiah. The deepest religious truths therein are expressed symbolically in the sacrifices and rituals. Since they are not explained in words of one syllable for the benefit of the lazy, the uninterested and the shallow, they have not been perceived by churchmen whose religion never gets beyond mere emotionalism. These are the men who tell us Yahweh was mistaken in the Old Testament that His plan would not work, because men in their wickedness were stronger than Yahweh. They would not let Him carry out His plans, so He had to abandon all this and start over again in the New Testament. Isn't that an inspiring religion! They call themselves New Testament Christians, but they either won't read or won't believe the New Testament either.
In this same New Testament Yahshua, to whom these Jews render lip service, calls their attention to Christianity in the writings of Moses. In John chapter 5 He twice called attention of the Jews to this fact saying, "Search the scriptures: for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and it is they which testify of Me." The earliest book of the New Testament, Matthew, was not written until ten years after Christ spoke, so the scriptures He told them to read were necessarily those of the Old Testament. Yahshua told them, "There is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me." Can you be a New Testament Christian if you won't believe Yahshua's own words?
We find the essence of Christianity clearly symbolized in the origin of the Passover. You remember Moses had repeatedly demanded of the Pharaoh of Egypt that he let the people of Israel go, and the Pharaoh had each time refused, despite the many miracles Moses worked bringing down plagues upon Egypt to show his authority. So Yahweh told Moses that one more plague would be sent upon Egypt, which would surely convince Pharaoh that he should let the children of Israel go. "Thus saith Yahweh, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: and all the first born in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon the throne, even unto the first born of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the first born of beasts. But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how Yahweh doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel."
Note what this means, because of the stubborn wickedness of the Egyptians, the death penalty was to come upon them. Yet the children of Israel, who were also imperfect and sinful, were to escape this penalty. There was only one way in which they could be spared, by the ritual of the Passover. This Passover certainly symbolizes Christianity as the way of salvation from death.
The instructions for this ritual were given in Exodus chapter 12. "In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for a house. And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole qahal of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening. And they shall take of the blood and strike it on the two side posts and upon the upper doorpost of the houses, wherein they shall eat it. And they shall eat the flesh in the night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs shall they eat it. And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy when I smite the land of Egypt. And this day shall be unto you for a memorial: and ye shall keep it for a feast to Yahweh throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever."
This symbolized Yahshua giving His life to save those who believe in Him. This festival was always kept in the Hebrew month of [Abib]. This meal gave the Israelites strength for their forced march, that night and all the next day, leaving Egypt in the exodus. The lamb's blood had to be placed outside the door on the two doorposts and the lintel above the front door of each house. Although they were cruelly mistreated slaves in the land of their enemies, they could not eat the Passover supper in secret. Salvation from death came only to those who publicly proclaimed their faith that the blood of the lamb would save them.
This is clearly New Testament Christianity. First, the necessity for public confession of faith in the blood of the Lamb. In Matthew 10:32-33 Yahshua says, "Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him will I confess also before My Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My father which is in heaven." Also read Luke 12:8-9. In Romans 10:9 Paul reminds us, "That if thou shalt confess, with thy mouth, Yahshua the Christ, and shalt believe in thine heart that Yahweh hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Eating the flesh of the lamb, to gain strength for the great effort of the exodus from the world and evil into salvation and the kingdom of Yahweh, is again clear Christian symbolism. In John chapter 6 Yahshua says, "I am the bread of life: he that cometh to Me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on Me shall never thirst. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is My flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."
Perhaps some of you are wondering about the command in Exodus 12:24, "And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to thy sons forever." Are we violating Yahweh's law when we do not celebrated Passover as such today? No, you will note that the Passover ritual was an ordinance; all the religious rituals were stated as ordinances. There are four grades of divine law.
(1) The commandments, which are the greatest rules governing man's relation to his God.
(2) The statutes, which are the rules for governing the nation, including many of the rules for man's relation to his fellow man.
(3) The judgments, which are the rules telling the judges how to decide cases between man and man.
(4) The ordinances, which are the rules for the religious rituals and ceremonies. The commandments, statutes and the judgments are the rules, which are forever necessary for a good life in this world, and they are still in force. The ordinances governed only the religious ceremonies and rituals, and all of these were symbolic of the coming Savior and Redeemer, Yahshua.
Since He had not come in Old Testament times, all the symbolism of the rituals looked to the future. But after Yahshua had actually come, we cannot go on proclaiming our faith that our Redeemer has not yet come but will come in the future. That would be a rejection of Yahshua who has already come. Therefore, only the form of the ceremony, not its eternal truth, is changed to a new form the last supper or communion, which proclaims our faith in a Redeemer who has already come. It is still the same eternal truth about the same Redeemer. It does not reject any of the truth implied in the Passover, it merely proclaims this as already accomplished.
The Passover was on the 14th day of the Hebrew month [Abib]. The Passover lambs were killed and dressed in the afternoon, ready for that evening's Passover supper. The King James Bible wrongly translates this as in the evening. But the Hebrew said, between the evenings, which meant between the time when the sun first started toward sunset at noon, and the time when it finished it=s going down. Yahshua was crucified soon after noon and He died about 3 P.M., the Bible says, about the ninth hour. The Hebrew divided the night into watches and the day into twelve hours, beginning at sunrise, which came about 6 A.M. at that time of year, so the ninth hour was 3 P.M. Yahshua died right in the middle of the period when the Passover lambs were being killed, emphasizing the fact that He was our Passover.
The next day, the fifteenth day of [Abib], began the seven days of the feast of unleavened bread. We find this in Leviticus 23:6-8, "And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of the unleavened bread unto Yahweh: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. In the first day ye shall have convocation: ye shall not do any servile work therein. But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Yahweh seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein." Like all the other festivals and rituals of the Old Testament, this feast of the unleavened bread is symbolic of Yahshua and His ministry.
Leaven was a symbol of sin, its fermentation being perhaps thought of as similar to putrefaction, the way just a little leaven introduced into the dough would soon spread through it all. Hence we find Yahshua warning His disciples in Matthew 16:6, to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Since Yahshua was the bread of life, as He explained in John chapter 6, the fact that,
(1) Yahshua has saved us by His death in our place on the cross, followed by
(2) the fact that our lives are thereafter sustained by His power, is symbolized by the Passover, followed by the feast of the unleavened bread. Yahshua's perfection, free from all sin, is symbolized by the use of unleavened bread.
The third of the spring festivals firstfruits came before the end of unleavened bread. On the first day after the Sabbath following the Passover, was the firstfruits festival. It is mentioned in many places, Exodus 23:16, 34:22; Leviticus 23:10-14; Numbers 18:12-13, 28:16; Deuteronomy 18:4, 26:1-11, and the entire ritual is given in Deuteronomy 26:1-11. "And it shall be, when thou art come unto the land which Yahweh thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and possessest it and dwellest therein: that thou shalt take of the first of all the fruits of the earth, which thou shalt bring out of thy land that Yahweh thy God giveth thee, and thou shalt put it in a basket and shall go unto the place which Yahweh thy God shall choose to place His name there. And thou shalt go unto the priest that shall be in those days and say unto him, I profess this day unto Yahweh thy God, that I am come unto the country which Yahweh swore unto our fathers for to give us. And the priest shall take the basket out of thine hand and set it down before the altar of Yahweh thy God. And thou shalt speak and say before Yahweh thy God, A Syrian ready to perish was my father and he went down into Egypt and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty and populous: and the Egyptians evil entreated us and afflicted us and laid upon us hard bondage: and when we cried unto Yahweh, God of our fathers, Yahweh heard our voice, and looked on our affliction and our labor and our oppression: and Yahweh brought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand and with an outstretched arm and with great terribleness, and with signs and with wonders: and He hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. And now behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land which Thou, O Yahweh, hast given me."
The people in general have never shown any ability to understand the deeper truths of religion. Only a very few upon whom rests the spirit of Yahweh, have ever understood. Therefore, to keep the rituals in the mind of the people, Moses had to give a simplified explanation, within the range of comprehension of the average man. Consequently, he tied in the festival of the firstfruits with the idea of expressing gratitude to Yahweh for his gift of the Promised Land. But the promised land of Canaan was only for this world, a temporary value. What was the true Promised Land, the one that was eternal? It must necessarily be resurrection and continued life after the death of this fallen body. Therefore, that is the true symbolism of the festival of the firstfruits and that is the fulfillment, which Yahshua gave it. On the morning after the Sabbaths, Yahshua was resurrected to demonstrate the reality of the redemption He had given us and this was on the exact day of the festival of the firstfruits. He always fulfilled the great reality on the exact day of the festival, which symbolized that realty.
Yahshua carried out the symbolism of the firstfruits to the exact letter. Leviticus 23:10-11 commands, "The firstfruits offering shall be a sheaf of grain, a number of stalks, each with its head containing many individual grains; and the priest shall take the sheaf and wave it. They were to publicly display it before Yahweh. When Yahshua was resurrected, He did not rise alone. Matthew 27:52-53 tells us, " The graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose and came out of the graves after His resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared unto many." Thus He fulfilled the symbolism of the wave sheaf, containing many individual grains, by resurrecting many persons when He arose as the firstfruits from the dead and making public display of His victory over death.
This is the correct interpretation of the symbolism that is shown by Paul's words in I Corinthians 15:20-23, "But now is Christ risen from the dead and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterwards they that are Christ's at His coming."
The firstfruits festival came at the time of the barley harvest, for the barley harvest ripened several weeks before the wheat. The offering of the firstfruits at the temple was of only a small amount, a mere token as a pledge that when the major harvest, that of the wheat was brought in, the full tithe of the grain harvest would be brought to the temple. This was to be done at what the Bible calls, the feast of weeks, and which the churchmen, with the usual specialists' delight in developing a jargon of their own, have chosen to call Pentecost. Yahshua knew and respected the symbolism involved here. At firstfruits, He did not bring all the magnificent gifts He would give to His followers, He brought just a token resurrection of a few persons, to show how great would be His eventual gift to men. However, men must live out their lives under all the usual circumstances of this world, before they reach the stage of death and resurrection so, they need another gift before that time. What they need to bring them triumphantly through life is the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.
Yahshua had promised them this gift in John 14:16-18. "And I will pray the Father and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you forever: even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but ye know him; for He dwelleth with you and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." So, at the time of firstfruits, Yahshua demonstrated the reality of His gift of resurrection by bringing several of the dead to life. It was not yet time for actual resurrection to come to everyone, so this was just a token given in pledge of the final harvest. With this proof, everyone could wait in serene confidence for what was yet to come. The rest of the harvest for man was to be demonstrated in its own good time, at the feast of weeks.
The feast of weeks was celebrated on the fiftieth day after firstfruits, as specified in Leviticus 23:15-21. "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that ye brought the wave offering, seven Sabbaths shall be complete: and even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days: and ye shall offer a new meal offering unto Yahweh. Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baked with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto Yahweh. And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs, without blemish, of the first year, and one young bullock and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto Yahweh, with their meal offering and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of savour unto Yahweh. Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings. And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits, for a wave offering before Yahweh, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to Yahweh for the priest. And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute forever in all your dwellings throughout your generations."
Note here some contrasts, which are intended to make clear the different things symbolized. In the feast of the firstfruits, the symbolism was that of Yahshua resurrected as the firstfruits from the dead. Since leaven symbolizes sin, there could not be any leaven in the offerings made on the day of firstfruits. Along with the sheaf of barley, the Israelite was to offer a he lamb of the first year without blemish, as a burnt offering, which symbolized Yahshua offering to pay the penalty of our sins. There was also to be an offering of fine flour mingled with oil, but not baked into a leavened loaf, nor could any leaven be included in the offering, as firstfruits must symbolize Yahshua who is without sin. But the feast of weeks, also called Pentecost, does not directly represent Yahshua; it symbolizes the true church and Yahshua's gift of the Holy Spirit to the church.
Even the very best of men have some sins, even when called by Yahshua to be part of His church. Therefore, the wave loaves, which symbolize the church, were made with leaven. Note also that at the feast of the firstfruits, there was the offering of a sheaf of stalks of barley, each stalk having its head containing many individual grains. This symbolizing the many individuals to whom Yahshua brings the gift of life and resurrection. With the call to form His church, all the believers become part of one body, the church. As Paul points out in I Corinthians 10:16-17 saying, "The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? For we, being many, are one bread and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread." Therefore, the offering at the feast of weeks is no longer a sheaf containing a multitude of individual grains, but of the wave loaves symbolizing the many believers having now become one church.
In fulfillment of this, at the feast of weeks or Pentecost, next following the crucifixion, the disciples were waiting in Jerusalem in obedience to Yahshua's promise and command in Luke 24:49. "And behold, I send the promise of My Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high". Acts 1:8 promises, "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Spirit is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses upon Me, both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and in Samaria and unto the uttermost parts of the earth." At the feast of weeks, the Holy Spirit came upon them, as set forth in detail in Acts chapter 2 which began the work of the church, men united in their fellowship as parts of the mystic body of Christ. Remember, this was but the fulfillment of the promise symbolized in the feast of weeks in the Old Testament.
Have we now completed our review of Christianity in the Old Testament? Far from it, let us now turn to Isaiah 53:3-7, which even our various churches all admit refers definitely to Yahshua. I will correct a few errors in translation in it. "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of pains and acquainted with sickness: and we hid as it were our faces from Him; He was despised, and we esteemed Him not. Surely He hath borne our sickness and carried our pain: yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of Yahweh and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him, and with His stripes we are healed. All we, like sheep, have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and Yahweh hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed and He was afflicted, yet He opened not His mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter." Indeed, what can the New Testament add which is not found here? Remember, Isaiah wrote this almost 7 2 centuries before it was fulfilled!
How can clergymen be so blind? Most of them quote this passage from Isaiah at one time or another; they even preach that it is referring to Yahshua. Then they preach that the Old Testament set forth a different and false religion, which had to be abandoned, to make way for the New Testament and Christianity.
The Psalms make many references to Yahshua and His work of salvation. Psalm chapter 2 contains clear reference to Him. "I will declare the decree: Yahweh hath said unto Me, Thou art My son: this day have I begotten thee. Ask of Me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Be wise now, therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve Yahweh with fear rejoice with trembling. Kiss the son, lest He be angry, and ye perish from the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little." Psalm chapter 22 is generally admitted to be a prophetic picture of the crucifixion of Yahshua. It is too long for me to quote here, read it for yourself and you will see that it describes the crucifixion.
Psalm 40:6-10 again prophesies Yahshua, as is recognized in Hebrews 10:5-14. Don't these New Testament Christians ever read the New Testament? Yahshua certainly did fulfill these words of Psalm 40. "Sacrifice and offering Thou didst not desire; mine ears hast Thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast Thou not required. Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, I delight to do Thy will, O my God; yea, Thy law is within my heart. I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O Yahweh, Thou knowest. I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared Thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed Thy loving kindness and Thy truth from the great congregation." Psalm 41:9 is prophetic saying, "Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me." In John 13:18 Yahshua quotes this verse, telling the disciples that the betrayal by Judas Iscariot is the fulfillment of this Psalm.
Psalm 45:6-7 refers to Yahshua, "Thy throne, O Yahweh, is forever and ever: the scepter of Thy kingdom is a right scepter. Thou lovest righteousness and hatest wickedness: therefore Yahweh, Thy God, that anointed Thee with the oil of gladness above Thy fellows." This is quoted, word for word in Hebrews 1:8-9, as applying to Yahshua.
Psalm 68:18 refers to Yahshua's deliverance of the dead from their previous captivity by the powers of evil saying, "Thou hast ascended on high, Thou hast led captivity captive: Thou hast received gifts for men: Yea, for the rebellious also, that Yahweh might dwell among them." This Psalm is quoted by Paul in Ephesians 4:7-10 explaining its reference to Yahshua.
Psalm 69:9, refers to Yahshua's single minded devotion to doing His Father's will, regardless of the consequences says, "For the zeal of thine house hath eaten Me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon Me." John 2:17 and Romans 15:3 explain that this verse applied to Yahshua. Why don't these New Testament Christians read their New Testament? Then they can see that it so frequently refers to the Old Testament for confirmation of its truth?
Psalm 110:1,4 in referring to Yahshua says, "Yahweh said unto His Son, Sit thou at My right hand, until I make Thine enemies Thy footstool and Yahweh hath sworn and will not repent, Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." In Matthew 22:41-45 Yahshua quoted this Psalm in proof of His divine nature and Peter also cited it as such proof. In Acts 2:29-36, and in Hebrews 5:6, 6:20 & chapter 7, Paul quotes it as authority three times. There are also several other identifiable references to Yahshua in other Psalms, but we have covered that field enough.
Before we leave this point, let us note how thoroughly it is explained in the book of Hebrews 9:1-12. "Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service and an earthly sanctuary. For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick and the table and the shewbread, which is called the sanctuary. And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the holiest of all; which had the golden censer and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded and the tablets of the covenant; and over it the cherubim of glory, shadowing the mercy seat; Now these things were thus ordained, and the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of Yahweh. But into the second went the high priest alone, once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself and for the errors of the people: Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience. But Christ being come, an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation; neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood He entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."
The religious ordinances of the Old Testament were all symbolic of the true redemption, which would be accomplished by Yahshua at His first coming. Now do you see why Paul said in Galatians 3:24, "The law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ". The first three major parts of the law are the commandments, the statutes and the judgments, established rules of conduct, which one must follow if his conduct is to be righteous. We all fall short of such good conduct and do not gain righteousness by our own actions, and the law condemns us for this. The fourth division of the law, the ordinances which set up all the religious rituals and ceremonies, points out that righteousness can be gained only through the death of another in our place, paying the penalty for our sins. As we have seen, this clearly symbolized that the real sacrifice, not the mere symbol of it, was that which would be made by Yahshua at His first coming, in His crucifixion and resurrection.
We cannot go on forever with our discussion of Christianity in the Old Testament, however there remains one part of it, which is as important, as all that we have studied this far. These are the three fall festivals, the Hebrew new year (Rosh Hashanah), the day of atonement (Yom Kipper) and the feast of the tabernacles, all symbolize the second coming of Yahshua. Let us now examine these in detail.
The Hebrew day began at sunset; each month was a lunar month, always beginning with the new moon. Today, we calculate the time when the moon is exactly opposite from its position at the full moon and this is the astronomical new moon. However, the moon is not visible at all on that day, it is too close to the sun to be seen even at sunset. The Hebrews counted as new moon the first day that a thin crescent could be seen just after sunset and this comes on a day later than the day marked new moon on your calendar. Sunset of the day of the new moon, of the first month of the year, was their new year's day. They posted watchers on nearby hilltops or on towers in the cities, to watch for the first glimpse of the thin crescent new moon. When the watchers saw it, they notified the people of the town by loud shouts and the people joined in the shouting and blowing horns. In fact, we still do something much like this, but we delay our new year's shouting and horn blowing until midnight.
We find the ordinance governing it in Numbers 29:1, "And in the seventh month, on the first day of the month, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work: it is day of blowing the trumpets unto you." If you are wondering about this reference to it as the seventh month, the answer is that the Hebrews had two separate calendar years. One was the civil year, commencing with the month Nisan in the spring. The other was the sacred year, commencing with the month Tishri, which was the seventh month in the civil year.
On a small scale, the New Year ritual was watchers scanning the heavens, looking there for the sign of the end of one period of time, a year, and the beginning of another. What is symbolized on the great scale is that we are to watch for the sign in the heavens marking the return of Yahshua, ending this age and beginning the next. Yahshua explained this for us in Matthew 24:30-31, "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
As they watched anxiously for the sign of the end of a year, so we watch hopefully for the sign in the heavens which will show us that Yahshua is on His way and nearly here, leading the vast armies of heaven, come to overthrow all wickedness and set us free from its power. This will end the sinful age in which we have been living and beginning the next age of true and complete righteousness when Yahshua shall rule all the earth as King of Kings.
Today, we who really believe His words remain alert to perceive the signs of His second coming, in accordance with His warnings in Matthew 24:42. "Watch therefore: for in such an hour as ye think not, the Son of man cometh." The importance of this sign cannot be overrated, so strongly and repeatedly does the Bible state it. In Matthew 25:1-13 Yahshua tells the parable of the ten virgins and their lamps, five of them being wise and keeping their lamps not only trimmed but also filled with oil, in readiness for their master's return from His wedding supper. The other five were foolish and had no oil for their lamps. He concludes this parable by saying, "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."
In Luke 21:34-36 Yahshua also said, "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness and cares of this life and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come upon all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass and to stand before the Son of man." Paul tells us in Thessalonians 5:4-6, " But ye brethren, are not in darkness, that the day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of the darkness. Therefore, let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober." Remember, the Hebrew New Year ritual in the Old Testament symbolized all of this.
The return of Yahshua, which is the dearest hope of the Christian, will not be a source of joy to those who hate Yahshua. Both Old and New Testaments alike tell us of His enemies' terror as they see their judgment and punishment coming. Zechariah 12:10-11 says, "And they shall look upon Me whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for Him as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him as one is in bitterness for his first born. In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem." Revelation 6:15-16 adds, "And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondsman, and every freeman hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth upon the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb." As the Book of Revelation is entirely symbolic, the mountains and the rocks of which he speaks, are nations and the communities into which the enemies of Yahshua have infiltrated. In calling upon these nations and cities to fall on them and hide them, they will be seeking protection by trying to pass as just ordinary members of these nations and communities, denying any double allegiance to another nation, race, or religion. Some of these Canaanite Jews have deceived us by this means and they will try also to deceive Yahweh, but without success.
The next fall festival was the Day of Atonement, on the tenth day of the Hebrew month Tishri. It was the most solemn of all the festivals and it carries the deepest symbolism in the entire Bible. Before we can consider it in detail, we must learn the identity of a fallen angel named Azazel (Aw-zaw-zale).
You will not find Azazel=s name mentioned in the King James Bible, although it is there in the original Hebrew. The entire story is not given in the books of the accepted canon of the Bible. So, we must turn to the book of Enoch for many of the details. We start with Genesis 6:1-4 as it reads in the Hebrew. "And it comes to pass that mankind (Adamites) have begun to multiply upon the face of the earth, and daughters have been born to them; and sons of God see the daughter of men, that they are fair, and they take to themselves women of all whom they have chosen. The fallen ones (Nephilim) were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when sons of God (sons of God is mistranslated from the word nephilim meaning fallen angels) came in unto the daughters of men and they have children born to them, they are the heroes who, from of old, are the men of renown." The fallen angels who followed Satan into rebellion were the ones who left their first estate (or condition), as we are told in Jude chapter 6. The King James Bible says, "There were giants in the earth in those days," but this is pure mistranslation, as the Hebrew says "The nephilim were in the earth in those days." The meaning of nephilim is, the fallen ones, obviously the fallen angels who had gone into rebellion under the leadership of Satan.
Who is Satan? The word Satan is not the name of any person, but a mere title, meaning the opponent. He is sometimes called Lucifer, but this also is only a title, meaning the shining one, or perhaps the light bearer. To teach whom the person is carrying these titles; we must turn to the book of Enoch, as I have said. Enoch chapter 6 says, "And it came to pass, when the children of men had multiplied, that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another, Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children" It goes on to list the names of the chief ringleaders among the rebel angels, among whom is one named Azazel.
Enoch chapter 8 records, "And Azazel taught men to make swords and knives and shields and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of war and the art of working them. And there arose much godlessness and they committed fornication and they were led astray and became corrupt in all their ways. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven." It tells how Yahweh sent a committee of four archangels, Michael, Uried, Raphael and Gabriel to investigate and report back to Him just how bad conditions really were. In Enoch chapter 9 they report, "Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth, * * And the women have borne giants and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness." In Enoch chapter 10 Yahweh orders Raphael to, "Bind Azazel hand and foot and cast him into darkness: and make an opening in the desert which is in Dudael and cast him therein." Then God pronounces sentence upon Azazel, "The whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel: To him ascribe all sin". Yahweh commands that Azazel be kept imprisoned in darkness in the pit in the desert, awaiting his final judgment and condemnation.
With this background, knowing who and what Azazel is, we are ready to commence our study of the Day of Atonement. The instructions for the Day of Atonement are found in Leviticus chapters 16 & 23. Usually I read to you the scriptures on the point and then explain it. However, if I read it in detail here, just the Leviticus chapter 16 alone would take all of my time. So, I suggest that you first read Leviticus 23:26-30 and all of Leviticus 16 and we will now study its meaning.
Ordinarily, the high priest performed his duties dressed in a magnificent embroidered robe, decorated with golden ornaments as well as colored embroidery and with the golden breastplate set with twelve jewels, each with the name of one of the tribes of Israel engraved on the jewel. Read Exodus chapter 28. It was the best man could do to indicate the majesty of one who, when so clad, represented the Godhood. The high priest when clad in his regular robes of office represented Yahshua in all the glory and majesty of Yahweh, before He came in the form of a man.
On the Day of Atonement however, the high priest laid aside his magnificent robes, bathed and dressed entirely in white linen, symbols of sinless purity. This was representing Yahshua coming in human form, having for a time laid aside the full majesty of the Godhood and being without sin, Leviticus 16:4. The high priest was himself a man, with the faults and sins, which all men have. He must cleanse himself of his own sins before he can act out the part of Yahshua in the ritual of the Day of Atonement. Therefore, he next sacrifices a sin offering on behalf of himself and his household. By this he is cleansed of his sins and so can play the part of the sinless Christ, Leviticus 16:6,11 &14.
The symbolism of the animal sacrifices offered by individual sinners was clearly this. Realizing that he had sinned, the sinner went to the temple and offered his sin offering, the death of the animal symbolizing his faith that the death of the real Savior would pay the penalty of his sins. By this, he was cleansed of his sin; he left the sin and its penalty at the temple. While the sinner was freed from the penalty, the sin must still be accounted for. So, the sins of the people accumulated at the temple all through the year. On the Day of Atonement, the temple contained all the sins of the people for the entire year. The temple must be cleansed of these accumulated sins before the rest of the ceremony could be performed. After the high priest had offered the sin offering on behalf of himself and his family, he was ready to make the great atonement for the people. The real meaning of this has been concealed by mistranslation in the King James Bible. In many of the modern translations, it has also been mistranslated.
The Hebrew reads, "And Aaron shall take from the assembly of the children of Israel two kids of the goats for a sin offering, and he shall take the two goats and cause them to stand before Yahweh at the door of the tabernacle. And Aaron shall cast lots over the two goats, one lot for Yahweh and one lot for Azazel; and Aaron shall bring near the goat on which the lot for Yahweh has fallen, and shall make it a sin offering. And the goat on which the lot for Azazel fell, he shall cause to stand living before Yahweh, to make atonement by it, to send it away for a goat of departure into the desert. And he shall slaughter the goat of the sin offering which is the people's and shall take its blood into the inside of the veil, and shall sprinkle it on the mercy seat and at the front of the mercy seat, and he shall make atonement for the sanctuary because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel and because of their transgressions in all their sins. And he shall make atonement for himself and for his household and for all the assembly of Israel."
Before we finish this, let's understand this part of it. The high priest has received from the nation of Israel two goats and he has cast lots over them to select one goat for a sin offering to Yahweh on behalf of all the people and the other goat is then selected for Azazel. The goat of the sin offering, on behalf of the people, is then slaughtered in sacrifice. The high priest then takes its blood into the holy of holies, where he sprinkles a little of the blood on and before the mercy seat where Yahweh sits. Thus he reminds Yahweh that blood has been shed to pay for all the sins of all the people. This symbolizes Yahshua offering His own innocent blood, shed to pay for all the sins of all the people who will accept Him as their Savior.
Hebrews chapter 9 explains, "Now when these things were thus ordained, the priest went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God. But into the second went the high priest alone, once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself and for the errors of the people. But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation. Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood he entered into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For it the blood of bulls and of goats and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh; how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit offered Himself without spot to Yahweh, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God. Almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without the shedding of blood is no remission of sins. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of Yahweh for us: nor yet that he should offer Himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with the blood of others; for then must He often have suffered since the foundation of the world. But now once in the end of the age hath He appeared to put away sin by the sacrifices of Himself." So Yahshua was offered, to bear the sins of many.
Surely, the sacrifice of the goat as a sin offering on behalf of the people, symbolizes Yahshua offering His own life as the sacrifice for entering heaven and us to stand before Yahweh to offer the shedding of His own blood, as the proof that no blame now remains upon those whom He has thus saved. Christianity, of course it is! Remember, all this is found in the early part of the Old Testament. Yahweh didn't give us a different religion there, nor make any mistakes, which needed correction later. He was right the first time and all the time. He gave us Christianity, in all its completeness, in the Old Testament.
Next, the high priest comes out of the holy of holies and he lays aside the plain white linen and resumes his gorgeous robes. This symbolizes Yahshua coming again, not as a mere man who could be treated with contempt and murdered, but returning with all the power and glory of Yahweh. The high priest now took the other goat; the one selected for Azazel, this goat was not sacrificed. The high priest laid his hands on the head of this goat and confessed over him all the sins of all the people. Leviticus 16:21-22 instructs, "And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the desert: and the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the desert."
Remember how the book of Enoch reported Yahweh's judgment upon Azazel? Unto Azazel ascribe all sin. Since he had taught men to sin and had created and ruled the evil conditions which kept them sinning, Azazel must himself bear the full responsibility for all their sins. For him there was no sacrifice to pay his penalty for him. To him the message was, "Here Azazel, all these sins are yours, you must answer for every one of them".
Notice the perfect consistency of Bible symbolism. The goat bears the people's sins and takes them away into an uninhabited desert. The Bible's doctrine of forgiveness of sin is not merely that Yahweh withholds the punishment we have earned; it is that Yahweh has removed the sin and all its unclean stain from us. He has separated us from our sins. Psalm 103:12 promises, "As far as the east is from the west, so far hath He removed our transgressions from us." The sin and all its consequences are gone from us and delivered to Azazel for him to bear the consequences of his own misdeeds.
The Day of Atonement is not just something out of an old religion, superseded now by the new. It is the mystery of Christianity in its purest essence. Leviticus 16:34 commands, "And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins, once a year." While we no longer sacrifice one goat and drive another out into the desert, we are supposed to understand the truth, which the ceremony symbolized, and never forget it.
The Hebrew New Year came on the first day of the Hebrew month Tishri and the Day of Atonement came on the tenth. Then on the fifteenth of Tishri began the weeklong feast of tabernacles, Leviticus 23:34-43 gives the rule. "Speak unto the children of Israel saying, The fifteenth day of the seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto Yahweh. On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. Seven days shall ye offer an offering made by fire unto Yahweh: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Yahweh: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein. In the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto Yahweh seven days: on the first day shall be a Sabbath and on the eighth day shall be a Sabbath. And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees and the boughs of thick trees and willows of the brook: and ye shall rejoice before Yahweh your God seven days. And ye shall keep it a feast unto Yahweh seven days in the year. It shall be a statute forever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month. Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths: that your generation may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am Yahweh your God."
Now let us consider what this means, remember the Israelites were then farmers and stock raisers, theirs was an entirely agricultural civilization. Very few made a living as merchants, even as it is today! The agricultural year began with the plowing and sowing of seed and it ended with the completion of the harvests. The last harvest was the grape vintage and by the time of the feast of tabernacles, even this was complete. The farmers had worked hard all year and now their labors were finished, they had their crops gathered and stored in their barns. Now they could rest and enjoy the fruits of their labors. We have lived under the curse of a fallen world and have spent all the age in hard labor. However, when Yahshua comes the second time, to free the world of its curse and set up the kingdom of Yahweh in all its glory, it will start a new age, Yahweh has not forgotten our labors. The reward of our good deeds awaits us, just like the farmer's crops stored in his barn, then we can rest and rejoice.
Of all the festivals, only the Day of Atonement was a somber one, the others were happy. The feast of tabernacles was the most joyous of all. Emphasis was laid upon the people dwelling for seven days in brush shelters, sometimes called booths, and there was mention made that this was in commemoration of the exodus from Egypt where the people were nomads without any houses. It does not seem that this was the entire significance of it, because it is associated with the idea of the end of this age. We know that this age will end in terrible war and devastation. It may be prophetic of a time to come, when destruction of cities will again force the survivors to dwell in such temporary shelters as they can find.
There are some further things about the feast of tabernacles we should study, first the word itself. In the Hebrew there are three words which have all been indiscriminately translated tabernacle, meaning a tent or temporary, moveable dwelling, but these three words have different meanings. The first is ohel, meaning a tent; the second is sukkah, meaning a hut of brush and twigs, or a booth. Both of these words mean a temporary dwelling place. The third word is mishkan, meaning a permanent dwelling place. On the exodus from Egypt, the people were constantly wandering about and had to dwell in tents, if they were lucky enough to have them, or in booths made of brush. In Hosea 12:19 Yahweh warns us, "I, Yahweh, thy God from the land of Egypt, will yet make thee to dwell in tabernacles, as in the days of the solemn feasts." This reinforces the idea that the command to live in such brush booths for the seven days of the feast of tabernacles was prophetic of a coming time when we would again be in flight from disaster and would have to take what shelter we could get. We will come back to the meaning of these words a little later.
One further significant thing about the feast of tabernacles, it came right after the last harvest of the grape vintage was completed. In Matthew 13:38-41 Yahshua explains the parable of the tares sown among the wheat saying, "The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; the enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this age. The Son of man shall send forth His angels and they shall gather out of His kingdom all things that offend and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire." We know that the coming end of this age is with the final world war, including the battle of Armageddon. This is the process of gathering out all the wicked for destruction, other prophets have written of it as the harvest of the vine of the earth.
For example Joel 3:13 states, "Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down, for the winepress is full, the vats overflow; for their wickedness is great." The idea is completed in Revelation 14:14-19, "And I looked and behold, a white cloud and upon the cloud One sat like unto the Son of man, having on His head a golden crown and in His hand a sharp sickle. And another eagle came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him that sat upon the cloud, Thrust in Thy sickle and reap: for the time is come for Thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And He that sat upon the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. And another angel came out of the temple, which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and he cried with a loud voice to him that had the sharp sickle saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe. And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth and cast it into the great wine press of the wrath of God."
Certainly no rest for us, as enjoyment of our reward, is not possible until the harvest removes from us the wicked who have ruined our every effort to build the kingdom of Yahweh during this age. So the symbolism of the feast of tabernacles, coming right after the harvest and marking the first time in the year when we have had time and opportunity to enjoy the fruits of our own labors, is fully consistent with the other portions of the Bible which develop other parts of the same basic idea.
Now, to get back to the meaning of tabernacle. There was a fulfillment in the birth of Yahshua, which occurred on October 4, 4 B.C. on the first day of the feast of tabernacles. No, He was not born on December 25th, for this is only an old pagan holiday celebrating the winter solstice, which can be traced back to at least 2000 B.C. in Egypt. In John 1:1,14 we read, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Yahweh and the Word was Yahweh; And the Word became flesh and did tabernacle among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." He came to live among us in the form of a mortal man only temporarily, so it is said that He tabernacled among us. The great fulfillment is yet to come, when He comes to remain forever among us, in fulfillment of the rest of the prophecy in both Old and New Testaments. First in Leviticus 26:3, 11-12 where Yahweh says, "I will set My tabernacle among you; (Here the word is Mishkan, My permanent dwelling place) and My soul shall not abhor you. And I shall walk among you and will be your God and ye shall be My people." The fulfillment of this is again prophesied in Revelation 21:3 saying, "And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell with them and they shall be His people and Yahweh Himself shall be with them and be their God." Here the word-translated tabernacle is the Greek word skene, which like the Hebrew mishkan means a permanent dwelling place.
We have reviewed the Old Testament and found it to be as fully a Christian book as is the New Testament. We have shown this on other occasions that the Old Testament is just as fully a Christian book, just as the New Testament is as fully an Israel book as the Old Testament.
While we are about it, let's correct that false use of the word testament, meaning the written will by which a dying man leaves his property to others. The words used correctly mean a covenant; it is a solemn contract to agreement between two or more persons. This correct usage makes sense and is consistent with all the Bible has to say about it. Yahweh made His covenant with Abraham and Yahweh never breaks His word. The Bible tells us in Jeremiah 31:31-33, "Behold the days come, saith Yahweh, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which My covenant they broke, although I was an husband unto them, saith Yahweh: but this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: after these days, saith Yahweh, I will put My law into their inward parts and write it in their hearts; and will be their God and they shall be My people".
The only change is from a rigid code of laws, which are followed, just to the letter and no more, to a code which Yahweh has written in the hearts of His people so they now obey Him willingly, out of love, not out of compulsion and fear. It is the same covenant, dealing with the same laws. In Hebrews 8:8-10, this passage from Jeremiah is quoted exactly, showing that the new covenant is merely the old covenant written in the people's hearts. There is no way the preachers can twist this into a repudiation of the Old Testament, or more correctly Old Covenant. Indeed, it is the clearest kind of affirmation of it as being right and good from the very beginning. Yahweh was always faithful to His word, the only change to a new covenant is one, which will make us also faithful to our promise to obey Him and be His people.
There is as much Christianity in the Old Testament as in the New. There is as much Israel in the New Testament as in the Old. Both Testaments are but the two halves of one consistent book, written by Yahweh, who is always truthful and consistent. He knew the end from the beginning; He made no mistakes and no failures. Yahweh had no need to abandon anything and make a new start. In the beginning only His chosen prophets fully understood His message, indeed that has always been true. But, with the passing of time, the message was more clearly unfolded for the people in general, but it was always the same message throughout the entire book. The Israelites are Yahweh's people, and He provided Christian salvation and redemption for them despite their sins, so that He could make good all of His wonderful promises to His people.
Best Regards,
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David Merrill
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Posted - 05 Jan 2005 : 13:57:51
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Thank you for posting the article.
I was taught what I spoke. That the Messiah on the Cross was true to the Abrahamic model. So it makes no sense anyway since Isaac was not killed dead. We agree on your first point.
But since there are no instances I can think of where a sacrificial lamb comes back to life - rather the lamb is, as you point out, a symbol of Yehovah providing; especially substituting a lamb for Isaac's life in the last moment. So therefore I do not construe your argument in support of Resurrection. Only the theophoric nature of the Messiah. Thus I corrected the name Yehoshuah to common standards and that in agreement with instilling the theophoric Name of God according to Biblical Hebrew custom and usage. Comparet's article is inherently weak in the resurrection argument because Camparet believes in it. For instance:
quote: The Bible only records a very limited account of this conversation between Yahweh and Adam and Eve. However, it very clearly implies that at this time Yahweh clearly explained to them the entire plan of redemption, including the fact that He, Yahweh, would be the Redeemer coming in the form of a descendant of Eve.
However there is nothing about rebirth.
quote: Possibly his [Abraham's] confidence might have been based in part upon the conviction that, if Yahweh did permit the death of Isaac, He would resurrect him, so that the promises would be fulfilled through Isaac. Remember that resurrection is a basic part of Christianity. By his own statement, Abraham also was calmly certain that Yahweh would intervene, providing a lamb for the sacrifice to be offered in place of Isaac, so that by the death of lamb, in his place, Isaac could be spared.This again, is the very essence of Christianity.
Still, we agree, no rebirth. Only supposition of what was going on in Abraham's head at the time. And this is really the problem with convincing me from the Old Testament. It is not there. But only Christians will try to see it there and of course just say that one has to be of the Christian faith to see it too. Well, I used to be there. That is why these 'corollary' are familiar to me.
The author loses me quickly when he starts depending on the Book of Enoch:
quote: You will not find Azazel's name mentioned in the King James Bible, although it is there in the original Hebrew. The entire story is not given in the books of the accepted canon of the Bible. So, we must turn to the book of Enoch for many of the details. We start with Genesis 6:1-4 as it reads in the Hebrew. "And it comes to pass that mankind (Adamites) have begun to multiply upon the face of the earth, and daughters have been born to them; and sons of God see the daughter of men, that they are fair, and they take to themselves women of all whom they have chosen. The fallen ones (Nephilim) were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards...
Now Camparet, like a lot of people is quite deluded to think that is true. That is just stupid to make such a bazaar presumption about Angels being able to copulate with human women when nowhere, nowhere in Israeli or Hebrew thought does that hold up. I could shoot it down solid with three or four commentaries in my shelves but I will just let you look closer at that. The same interpretation is the source of Qabbalah in the first instance according to Ritual Magick (author's name slips my mind) - History in Magic. That is just biologically impossible and a dreadful shame that it generates subsequent nonsense:
quote: Note, this records Satan was to have as literal children as Eve. The same Hebrew word for seed, zerah, is used in the case of both Satan and Eve. One of Eve's descendants, which we know to be Yahshua, was to defeat Satan although suffering terribly in the process. Carefully note another thing, it is Yahweh who puts enmity between Satan's children and Eve's children. You know how Satan's children love to parrot the official Communist party line phrase and call us hate mongers". The Bible itself tells us that Yahweh commanded and created that enmity or hatred. As a matter of fact, it only appears as hatred among Satan's children. We don't hate them, we just detest the evil character shown by the wicked things they are constantly doing. Satan's children are today known as Jews, formerly they were known as Canaanites, Hittites, etc.
That's just gross! Look at how Camparet has twisted the fantastic to create a Satan of anthropomorphic (personified) character and pinned it on a race/religion under the guise "We don't hate them..." That is a hateful thing to do. End of review.
So the premise we both agree on is that after the Crucifixion, Yehoshuah was up and about in some manner. We do not agree on the manner. We also agree I suppose that sacrificial lambs typically are killed dead. That is what I construe you Post to be in argument of. That for Jesus to have been up on his feet in any manner he must have been resurrected from the dead because his position in Scripture was symbolically the Lamb. The Lamb had been killed dead on the Cross.
The symbol of Yehoshuah being a lamb is, I belive, Christian. Again from Paul's religion. But mind you I am open to you directing me to biblical instances where the prophecied Messiah was referred to as a sacrificial lamb (in the Old Testament). And for that matter the presumed challenge that anyone can find inference the Messiah of God would hold any kind of supernatural powers in the Old Covenant.
The conciliation I find with Zechariah's Worthless Shepherd prophecy is that we witness a final fulfillment and I believe that it was fulfilled in 1997. Basically the death of the false prophet was symbolic and had to await the commission to the Gentiles of Paul's religion to complete the task at hand.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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BatKol
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Posted - 06 Jan 2005 : 10:39:49
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David, Thanks for the cold glass of water in my face! What an unexpected wake up call. The words of this man cleary outlines what I have been afraid to fully admit to myself given my last several months of intense study concerning the Aryan Jebusites and their conflicts with the Israelites. These words cut me strait to the heart:
"Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, care-free, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.
But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history . We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.
We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole world, to the barbarous races of the earth, to the countless unborn generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to the unexplored ends of the earth.
Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tales are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.
Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of motherhood and womanhood. A Jewish rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.
How did we do it? Almost by accident. Two thousand years ago nearly, in far-off Palestine, our religion had fallen into decay and materialism. Money-changers were in possession of the temple. Degenerate, selfish priests mulcted our people and grew fat. Then a young patriot-idealist arose and went about the land calling for a revival of faith. He had no thought of setting up a new church. Like all the prophets before him, his only aim was to purify and revitalize the old creed. He attacked the priests and drove the money-changers from the temple. This brought him into conflict with the established order and its supporting pillars. The Roman authorities, who were in occupation of the country, fearing his revolutionary agitation as a political effort to oust them, arrested him, tried him and condemned him to death by crucifixion, a common form of execution at that time.
The followers of Jesus of Nazareth, mainly slaves and poor workmen, in their bereavement and disappointment, turned away from the world and formed themselves into a brotherhood of pacifist non-resisters, sharing the memory of their crucified leader and living together communistically. They were merely a new sect in Judea, without power or consequence, neither the first nor the last.
Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale of its soldiery with the doctrines of love and non-resistance preached by the little sect of Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had subjugated Palestine along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome.
This was the beginning of our dominance in your world. But it was only a beginning. From this time forth your history is little more than a struggle for mastery between your own old pagan spirit and our Jewish spirit. Half your wars, great and little, are religious wars, fought over the interpretation of one thing or another in our teachings. You no sooner broke free from your primitive religious simplicity and attempted the practice of the pagan Roman learning than Luther armed with our gospels arose to down you and re-enthrone our heritage. Take the three principal revolutions in modern times - the French, the American and the Russian. What are they but the triumph of the Jewish idea of social, political and economic justice?
And the end is still a long way off. We still dominate you. At this very moment your churches are torn asunder by a civil war between Fundamentalists and Modernists, that is to say between those who cling to our teachings and traditions literally and those who are striving by slow steps to dispossess us. In Dayton, Tennessee, a Bible-bred community forbids the teaching of your science because it conflicts with our ancient Jewish account of the origin of life; and Mr. Bryan, the leader of the anti-Jewish Ku Klux Klan in the Democratic National Convention, makes the supreme fight of his life in our behalf, without noticing the contradiction. Again and again the Puritan heritage of Judea breaks out in waves of stage censorship, Sunday blue laws and national prohibition acts. And while these things are happening you twaddle about Jewish influence in the movies!
Is it any wonder you resent us? We have put a clog upon your progress. We have imposed upon you an alien book and an alien faith which you cannot swallow or digest, which is at cross-purposes with your native spirit, which keeps you everlastingly ill-at-ease, and which you lack the spirit either to reject or to accept in full.
In full, of course, you never have accepted our Christian teachings. In your hearts you still are pagans. You still love war and graven images and strife. You still take pride in the glory of the nude human figure. Your social conscience, in spite of all democracy and all your social revolutions, is still a pitifully imperfect thing. We have merely divided your soul, confused your impulses, paralyzed your desires. In the midst of battle you are obliged to kneel down to him who commanded you to turn the other cheek, who said "Resist not evil" and "Blessed are the peacemakers." In your lust for gain you are suddenly disturbed by a memory from your Sunday-school days about taking no thought for the morrow. In your industrial struggles, when you would smash a strike without compunction, you are suddenly reminded that the poor are blessed and that men are brothers in the Fatherhood of the Lord. And as you are about to yield to temptation, your Jewish training puts a deterrent hand on your shoulder and dashes the brimming cup from your lips. You Christians have never become Christianized. To that extent we have failed with you. But we have forever spoiled the fun of paganism for you.
So why should you not resent us? If we were in your place we should probably dislike you more cordially than you do us. But we should make no bones about telling you why. We should not resort to subterfuges and transparent pretexts. With millions of painfully respectable Jewish shopkeepers all about us we should not insult your intelligence and our own honesty by talking about communism as a Jewish philosophy. And with millions of hard-working impecunious Jewish peddlers and laborers we should not make ourselves ridiculous by talking about international-capitalism as a Jewish monopoly. No, we should go straight to the point. We should contemplate this confused, ineffectual muddle which we call civilization, this half-Christian half-pagan medley, and were our places reversed - we should say to you point-blank: "For this mess thanks to you, to your prophets and to your Bible."
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True North said:quote: But if you interpret John 11:26 as parable (as a "civil" death along the lines of legal name, social compact and that "person" coming into existence) you gain nothing towards understanding the symbol of resurrection.
Speaking of:quote: John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Jo 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
I will ignore (for now) the obvious presumption True North makes that I construe the resurrection scenario and symbology strictly within the scope of civil law and identity. That is a very useful model within its own scope. I may pick that up on another Topic later.
This scripture being the alleged resurrection of Lazarus, it cuts quickly to the heart of this Topic subject matter.
I chose to convey graphic .jpg/zip images of the chapter titled Lazarus from The Nazarene Gospel Restored by Robert Graves and Joshua Podro. Mainly because the book is so expensive and rare that many people will never get to appreciate this kind of extensive inductive analysis of the Gospels. If you are interested in a copy Bill will locate and drop-ship you a copy (719) 578-5044. The chapter directly addresses supernatural resurrection.
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quote: Originally posted by David Merrill
Dear Readers;
That Paul's religion served (past tense) a distinct purpose but we are better to face up to the truth and dispel the arrogant Santy Clause delusions about the supernatural Resurrection and Paul's inflexible stipulation that we will suffer eternal Hellfire for doing so.
Where do we find Paul's "inflexible stipulation that we will suffer eternal Hellfire" recorded?
I find that history itself offers some pretty good evidence that most history was written by men with preconceived ideas who go looking through the history books to find something to support their own preconceptions or misconceptions and then write history to suit themselves.
The only point that I see that Marcus Eli Ravage offers that might be considered evident of anything is that people by their very nature are just people no matter what labels they attach to themselves. He uses words like “our national literature is your Holy Bible” and pretends that Jews were the authors yet his words are nothing to be compared with what is written within those books.
The nation of Israel went the same way of all nations made up of people who don’t know how to look to anything but former writings and their own reason. This amounts to the dead conversing with the dead. Apart from occurrences that seems to have changed the course of nations and appears in history as revelations from a Living God, I have a hard time seeing that the acts of one nation of people are much different from another. Just different cultures in different times brought about by different circumstances.
The nation of Israel I believe was intended to be an example of how a nation of people will end up that thinks they can solve their problems by bonding themselves to a written code.
Although most of the written laws and constitutions may have been well intended in the beginning they will always end up under the control of men who desire to promote their own selfish gain.
Law is reason and a powerful force among men who know how to use it for their own advantage. Moses I believe was a man who understood this but he chose to use the power of law in an attempt to help his people live and remain free. The nation of Israel endured under self government for several hundred years but they were powerless to live and walk in the righteous ways God based on law as the foundation, even that which is called God’s Law which is about as simple and just as any code of law found in history. The judges and prophets of Israel were constantly having to remind the people who were always turning to idolatry that God’s righteousness was more than obedience to rituals and codes. The message of the Old Testament and the New is that carnal minded men cannot enter into the rest of the Living God other than through His Spirit, hence the necessity of the new covenant.
Some call Jesus, or Yeshua, the lawgiver but I can’t find where he ever referred to himself as a lawgiver. Although he very much understood the concepts and precepts on which the law was based he never claimed law as the foundation of his authority or any other scriptures. He claimed a direct relationship, communion, and obedience to the will of the Heavenly Father as the foundation of his authority, and the kingdom of God which he said the Father appointed to him and he preached was at hand. He did not judge sinners by the law but he called the law and the scriptures to witness against those who did or claimed the law or scripture as the foundation of their authority. He also called the law and the scriptures to witness against those who attacked the credibility of his being who he said he was.
What he actually did was cut off government based on the arm of the law as a means of access to the throne of heaven and translated the government of the kingdom of God into the Spiritual realm.
Gen:49:10: The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
And this is not to say that he came to change the laws of the law covenant mediated through Moses with the children of Israel for he did not. Those who chose to stay bound under that covenant were perfectly free to do so.
Paul speaking of Abraham points out that he received the promise that he would be the Father of many nations based on obedience to what God told him to do through faith, not a code of law. Abraham was an example of a man whose heart trusts in the abilities of a Living God and he obeys because of the virtue found in the commandment of God unlike a carnal, evil, or rebellious man which obeys because he is afraid of a penalty. Abraham walked with God based solely on his faith that God would fully perform what he had promised. This covenant was simply based on trust and faith that the other would perform according to the agreement. No coercion, no punishment, no penalties, and no condemnation for failure to perform attached.
Paul is also the only writer of the New Testament that I believe fully understood the message of Christ and who he claimed to be. Paul never spoke against the law or encouraged men to break the law or its commandments but he did rebuke those who claimed a part in the new covenant and then tried to force or intimidate others to obey the code and rituals of the old. Knowledge of the law and the scriptures as well as the laws which operate upon the land are very much a part of the New Covenant but they are not the foundation.
Ephesians 6:13: Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14: Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15: And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16: Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17: And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; 13: Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
I see that neither Jesus nor Paul preached a new religion but a kingdom based on a Spiritual relationship with a Living Father in Heaven where the compulsion to move and act comes from within based on love of God and love of fellowmen.
Law is a powerful force but knowledge of law without a love for the rights of others is only a devil in disguise. I am not ready yet to trade the virtue that I see in the teachings of Paul for verbiage such as that presented by Marcus Eli Ravage.
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Dear Clarence;
You make about six very interesting points.quote: Where do we find Paul's "inflexible stipulation that we will suffer eternal Hellfire" recorded?
andquote: Law is reason and a powerful force among men who know how to use it for their own advantage.
I fully agree. These and many items you speak about I call conditioning. The color of authority etc. Marty for Cornerstone Foundation quoted scripture that precluded anyone who does not believe in the Resurrection but it does not specifically stipulate 'eternal Hellfire'. And likewise many will follow the policy of the day as though it is law.quote: I am not ready yet to trade the virtue that I see in the teachings of Paul for verbiage such as that presented by Marcus Eli Ravage.
A very good commentary. And put into context of the entire Topic, not just the articles by Ravage, might I paraphrase? You are saying that regardless of the Resurrection, you will not throw away Paul's writings just because he may have been formulating a War by Propaganda? You will hold the traditional Christian values instead of wandering off after a few historical authors. That sounds wise.
I pointed out that there is no benefit to convert you. I am not passing a collection plate to those that join my new religion or whatever. Often I wish that the truth had not sunk in so deep that I had to stop going to Bible Study.
Regards,
David Merrill.
P.S. You said in your January 8 Post:
quote: Ephesians 6:13: Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14: Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15: And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16: Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17: And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; 13: Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Such truth in poetry by Paul! So I certainly respect your not being persuaded by my rather unconventional theory.
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Greetings, and now we have non-believers posting Jewish rants, as if the ecclesia cares? Joseph of Arimathea preached the teachings of Messiah Yahushua in London in 37 a.d. So sorry to see American men discerning history through the eyes of Rome and Jewish thought. Twice in history, international law was called in to settle the dispute over David's throne not being in London. Both times, International law agreed that the throne of David was in London. People believe what they want to, and true lies abound. The whole book of scriptures is about a race of men...Israelites. Jews are a footnote, and they know it. Blindness is happened to Israel in part, except for the elect, who know Truth, through pure grace, the election. To believe modern day Jews are Israel, one must be scripturally illiterate, or hard hearted. Paul was a Benjaminite. Merrill calls Paul a thief and a liar. Merrill calls James-John-Peter-Yahushua all liars. Over 500 witnessed Yahushua alive after the "being nailed to the stake", and yes, a Roman spear pierced his heart, where blood and water poured forth. Splain that Dave? "It is hard for you to kick against the pricks" Translated...you are fighting the Divine revelation. Paul was a completely Judiazied/Talmud worshipper, at that time...until the Light came.We have come full circle. Judeo Christianity has its follower's about 50/50...double minded. Part Talmudic, part Roman Catholic. Then we have real Christians, doing heroic works daily. And there is still the remnant, growing daily, till the unveiling. Paul is so bold as to say one must believe that Yahushua was resurrected from the dead in order to be 'saved'. Roman's 10. Till this happens, the second birth is impossible. Jezebel means to be chaste. She won't open up to Truth. She won't spiritually conceive with Truth. Spiritually cross legged. "I sit a queen, and am no widow". All of us need our 'virgin birth'. The second son. Born of the Spirit...water birth was the physical water sack birth. It's a little late fellows. Some of this is so simple, the wise will have no excuse, in that Day. None, zippo. I have noticed that the alter ego...MR ALL CAPS, can be destroyed. And all that happens is Mr. Ego takes over the throne room. Press on to the high calling. The Kings chamber, as noted in the Giza pyramid. BTW, one must bow down low, to enter...the Kings chamber. Marcus Eli Ravage? On an ecclesia platform? What next? A Jeffry Dahlmer cookbook? Why usury is good for you, by Allen Greenspan? Why UNCLE SAM needs more boys as cannon fodder? How to put down everyone and anyone, by David Merrill? I have many quotes from Jewish rabbi's who lay absolutely no claim to being ancient Hebrews, or modern Israelites. In fact many rabbi's detest ZIONISM. David's throne is really YHWH's throne, and has been in existance since 1000 b.c. Perfect? Hardly. But a promise is a promise. And the Truth shall set you free.
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BatKol
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quote: Robert-James said: Greetings, and now we have non-believers posting Jewish rants, as if the ecclesia cares?
Steve: The traffic on this thread stands as proof the topic is of concern to folks who post on this board. It is no esoteric mystery.quote: Robert-James said: So sorry to see American men discerning history through the eyes of Rome and Jewish thought.
Steve: You fail to understand that the Bible IS a product of both Roman and Jewish thought. You know the story. 70 Jews were brought to Alexandria to transcribe the Torah for their 3rd kingdom masters 285 BCE. The LXX is the product of that effort. Today's equivelant would be like HOMEFRONT security commisioning a group of Bible scholars to make them a version of the first five books....and forget the Jew vs. Judah word game nonsense. This book was written by the same kind of "scribes and pharisees who sit on Moses' seat" as was around back in 31 AD. History has much to say about the Temple Jews of that era. Jews are Jews. The early tradition of the elders and later written talmud. Same group Christ recognised as sitting on Moses' seat. The people who followed it then are of the same bloodline as those who practice it now. Simple, no word games needed......Fast forward to the council of Nicea 325 AD where the official version of the NT was hammered out as the handbook for the 4th kingdom state religion.... then after finishing the task they set about literally hammering out all of the other opposing Christ sects. So there you have both Roman thought and Jewish thought in scripture.quote: Robert-James said: I have many quotes from Jewish rabbi's who lay absolutely no claim to being ancient Hebrews, or modern Israelites.
Steve: I have Norse, Scottish and English history which show they have no claim to being the Israelites either. These histories are much older than the bogus British Israel poems and myths which trace back no further than their own books. BTW, have you even read the Declaration of Arborath? It does not state that the Scots were Israelites. |
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Dear Readers;quote: How to put down everyone and anyone, by David Merrill?
You have already done that to yourself; the putdown.quote: and now we have non-believers posting Jewish rants, as if the ecclesia cares?
quote: Marcus Eli Ravage? On an ecclesia platform? What next? A Jeffry Dahlmer cookbook?
Protectionist words. Another dutiful guardian of the site? I love it. Please describe in detail why in your opinion, those you label "non-believers" are not fit for writing here. Be sure to include how to prevent such writings in the future. [bait]
For readers who do not know, your comments Robert-James will make much more sense in the light of Aryan elitism or British Israel. That is Robert-James' trademark. Of course Jews are not the same in any context as the Israelites. But that does not compose a scenario where the Kingdom of David is located in London.
I knew people were going to get upset. Some of the upset behavior and verbiage has been quite surprising though. Nothing quite as delightful as True North's first Post. His proposal that the Resurrection could be thought valid through its symbols was truly thought provoking. That really disqualified the entire historical argument either way; whether the Crucifixion killed Yehoshuah or not.quote: Over 500 witnessed Yahushua [sic] alive after the "being nailed to the stake", and yes, a Roman spear pierced his heart, where blood and water poured forth. Splain that Dave?
That is explained in two different convincing scenarios. Robert Graves was severely injured by shrapnel in the side in a battlefield explosion. He was taken to a MASH unit in a coma and the doctor detecting no heartbeat saw no bleeding from the wounds and summarily declared Graves dead. [Keep in mind if Yehoshuah would have bled much, the Roman would have broken his legs with a club so that he would quickly suffocate.] Graves was placed with the dead for another 36 hours before someone noticed signs of life and revived him. This influenced him to write about a 'survival' by similar means in The Nazarene Gospel Restored.
Michael Baigent notes the 'at a distance' verses in Holy Blood, Holy Grail. There was typically no keeping the people at a distance at crucifixions. The point was to set an example. Otherwise the Romans would have just executed expeditiously and without ceremony. Baigent suspects Joseph of Arimathea, a wealthy silver minor and uncle of Yehoshuah may have had the influence to sway the execution and save the new king.
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Posted - 07 Jan 2005 : 21:31:25
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Robert,quote: Robert-James wrote:
The whole book of scriptures is about a race of men...Israelites. Jews are a footnote, and they know it.
Cornerstone Foundation wrote:
We agree with this statement in a general sense as it apply to "powerful" Jews and as it pertains to the common usage of the word "Jews" today.
There is abundance eveidence in the Scripture, secular history and archeology to prove it.
We think there may be many Talmudic Jews in the lower ranks who do not realize this.
Best Regards,
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BatKol
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In these lessons we have proven the Anglo-Saxon, Scandinavian and Teutonic people are the Israel of the Bible. We have proven this by showing you that these people and no others, especially not the Jews, fulfill the Bible prophecies about Israel. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What Christian Identity has failed to highlight (and what I have also been ignorant of concerning) is that the Bible is very clear that Israel will be under curses and ‘put away in punishment’ during their exile from the promised land. I have been saying this all along, yet failed to consider how this plays into common history and common sense.... We know that the prophecies of Israel being a great nation have been stipulated with performance clauses when they accepted the Torah covenant after their Exodus from Egyptian slavery. Blessings and curses. The story of Israel is plainly sketched out in the Bible. The Israelites were banished from the 'promised land' for breach of contract. Here is what the convenant says will befall Israel while they are being punished for breaking the Torah contract. None of this fits Aryan-Celtic-Anglo-Saxon history:
Deu 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
Deu 28:16 Cursed [shalt] thou [be] in the city, and cursed [shalt] thou [be] in the field.
Deu 28:17 Cursed [shall be] thy basket and thy store.
Deu 28:18 Cursed [shall be] the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
The history and achievements of White folk have proven to be the exact opposite of these curses. In punishment, Israel will be the tail and it’s enemies will be the head. The blessings and achievements of the White race, supposedly during the time Israel would be in exile, actually stand as proof against White nations being Israelites. White nations have been blessed in the city and in the field, blessed in the basket and the store, plain and simple.
Deu 28:19 Cursed [shalt] thou [be] when thou comest in, and cursed [shalt] thou [be] when thou goest out.
Deu 28:20 The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
This could not apply to the White race as history has shown that the exact opposite has been the case for our people. Nay, we have been blessed in all that we have done. War, inventions, etc. This fits in with the Bible outlining that Israel’s enemies will be the head and they will be the tail during the punishment.
Deu 28:21 The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
The opposite has happened for the White man.
Deu 28:22 The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
The White nations have been blessed with the complete opposite of this curse.
Deu 28:23 And thy heaven that [is] over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee [shall be] iron.
The White nations have been the ones subduing the planet, not as slaves but has one's who have done the enslaving. Even today most Whites enjoy a superior economic favor compared to other races in the world. In fact, the cultures of Persia, Greece and Rome were White.. Outlined in the book of Daniel, these were very kingdoms that the Israelites would be put in bondage under during their cursing period. Think this through.
Deu 28:24 The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
The opposite has been true for the White nations.
Deu 28:25 The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
Could there be any description more contrary to White history than the one written above? Think this through. It is plain to see the exact opposite has been the case in White history. Read the rest of the punishments and you will see that this does not match up with Aryan-Celtic-Anglo-Saxon history. This is not to say that White folks cannot or have not joined the peoplehood of Israel, it’s just that when you read the curses that will befall the Israelite people, these do not define White culture. Find the peoples who are truly living under these curses and you would be much closer in identifying who the Israelites would be, as they are defined in the Bible. The blessings will come when the punishment is over and the Israelite world order is established via the Throne of David. The very throne which got dismantled because of breach of the Torah contract.
Think about it.
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I will but you seem to be stating a premise that the white races will supplant the Jews in the current eretz some time in the (near) future? The Land on the east shore of the Mediterranean Sea?
This is an exciting premise if true.
For the sake of argument, and I am not studied on British Israel any more than to think I can recognize it when I hear it, that the White Races are the original Israelites and the Khazarian/Ashkenazim Japhethites, the Jews are imposters. They are from Rus; Russia where Japheth, Noah's son settled. That removes the "Jews" excluding Sephardim (about 4%) from the Semitic (from Shem) bloodline.
Ok, I said it out loud. (Recognizing you articulated so much first Batkol.)
What I am about to say is probably much more disturbing.
I have been confused that if the Jews are so Torah observant they cannot see the simple Torah solution to the Palestinian conflict right in front of them at Genesis 33:4.
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ge 33:4 And Esau ran to meet him, and embraced him, and fell on his neck, and kissed him: and they wept. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It looks to me like all the corollary are met. Manhattan Island is populated with about half the Jews. The other half is in the eretz. At least the amounts are equal, not containing the entire world's population of Jews.
Suppose one day Ariel Sharon or his replacement were to wake up and say, "Well it worked for Jacob/Israel; let's give it a shot", and turn the State of Israel in unconditional surrender over to the Palestinians (Esau/Edom). Then let's suppose that the nightmare started to unfold of a bunch of vengeful Muslim/Palestinians butchering the Jews. So with the UN and US also occupying Manhattan Island, the other half of the Jews in the Bible scenario, the US and Britain etc. (White People/Israel) occupies the eretz with a 'peacekeeping' force.
Now, in my projected scenario, we are where you might be saying we will soon be. Israelites again occupying the Holy Land and Temple Mount.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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BatKol
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quote: David said: I will but you seem to be stating a premise that the white races will supplant the Jews in the current eretz some time in the (near) future? The Land on the east shore of the Mediterranean Sea?
This is an exciting premise if true.
Actually, what my theory would imply is that those who wrote the Bible have it scripted where the Israelites would be conquering the White races as they are represented as kingdom metaphors of their captors the Persians, Greeks and Romans. Once these kingdoms are each destroyed then the Bible says David's Throne will rule the world. What amazes me about the Bible, is how accurate the prophecies are. The Jews in Babylon and Greek controlled Jerusalem knew exactly who they were writing about. The Jebusites who ruled Jerusalem for 2,000 years before the Israelites arrived are painted as the enemies. There are strong arguments connecting the Jebusites with the Aryans. Before the desert peoples over through them, the Hittites and the Amorites are reported as being fair and blond. Like most of these white cultures, they were over thrown later on by those they oppressed. America is on a fast track in repeating the same pattern and this defeat is even boldly predicted in the Bible.
quote: For the sake of argument, and I am not studied on British Israel any more than to think I can recognize it when I hear it, that the White Races are the original Israelites and the Khazarian/Ashkenazim Japhethites, the Jews are imposters. They are from Rus; Russia where Japheth, Noah's son settled. That removes the "Jews" excluding Sephardim (about 4%) from the Semitic (from Shem) bloodline.
First off, what does the Bible say about the bloodline of the Israelites? We have Judges 3:5 and 6 telling us of some of the peoples that have married into the Israelites. This makes sense when we consider other clues that follow. We see Saul is descended from a Canaanite. Judah marries a Canaanite. Ephraim begot strange children. If Solomon spread himself around as much as the Bible says, imagine what the common folks were doing. I could give more examples but you get the picture. Their DNA is a historical road map pointing to those who speak in the family of Semitic languages, not Indo-European. Northern European DNA is pretty homogenous. It was existing in Europe well before there was ever an Israelite or even an Abraham. The 2nd temple Jews make no secret about their hatred for the Indo-European pagan images they had to suffer in their temple "even unto this day". It is no surprise we would find the Indo-Europeans as the bad guys in the Bible seeing as the Tanakh, as we currently have it, is a product of the same 2nd temple Jews.
quote: I have been confused that if the Jews are so Torah observant they cannot see the simple Torah solution to the Palestinian conflict right in front of them at Genesis 33:4.
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ge 33:4 And Esau ran to meet him, and embraced him, and fell on his neck, and kissed him: and they wept. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This why I find it funny that Identity types go on about how they are the true Israelites and the Jews are Edomites. They should be reaching out to their brothers according to their own doctrines.
quote: It looks to me like all the corollary are met. Manhattan Island is populated with about half the Jews. The other half is in the eretz. At least the amounts are equal, not containing the entire world's population of Jews.
Suppose one day Ariel Sharon or his replacement were to wake up and say, "Well it worked for Jacob/Israel; let's give it a shot", and turn the State of Israel in unconditional surrender over to the Palestinians (Esau/Edom). Then let's suppose that the nightmare started to unfold of a bunch of vengeful Muslim/Palestinians butchering the Jews. So with the UN and US also occupying Manhattan Island, the other half of the Jews in the Bible scenario, the US and Britain etc. (White People/Israel) occupies the eretz with a 'peacekeeping' force.
Now, in my projected scenario, we are where you might be saying we will soon be. Israelites again occupying the Holy Land and Temple Mount.
That is one way to look at it but here's another. If you follow the demise of all the previous White Persian, Greek and soon the Roman kingdoms in the Bible you will see a pattern that the oppressed peoples ended up inheriting the administrations after white flight occurres. Soon after that the kingdoms fell. The same thing is happening here except we are already as far west as we can run. Whites are becoming a minority in this country and even around the world. Nobody will refute that, the stats are plain. Jews like Savage have a right to gloat. They have effectively infiltrated the power structure of the 4th kingdom and will bring it down once and for all if the Bible prophecies turn out to be true. And they seem to be moving along in that direction, not so much as prophecy but as road map. Look at it from their point of veiw..Life will be much better for the peoples of color once those 'war hungry Aryans' are killed or bread out. The Century Magazine article posted at the top of the thread makes perfect sense when you consider it along side the points made in this post.
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David Merrill
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Posted - 08 Jan 2005 : 17:08:18
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Maybe this is why you and Robert-James have disagreed so:
quote: There are strong arguments connecting the Jebusites with the Aryans.
This seems the inverse of British or Aryan Israel.
quote: That is one way to look at it but here's another... The same thing is happening here except we are already as far west as we can run.
So we are agreeing about the history at least. Maybe not the names on the peoples. And the fulfillment of Manassah, the prophecy for Manassah. The far reaches of the world. That seems there.
But I am still not following because the 'white races' are not Israel but the symbolic ancient enemy of Israel, the Jebusites originally displaced out of Canaan. That adds up in some ways but does not make sense when I try to put it all in place.
Also these northern Europeans were fair skinned and blond-haired Danites. The tribe of Dan. That has really got to fit in there somewhere for me to understand it. These symbols along the bottom of the Star of David in the lobby with my clerk are Dan, the Bloodline of the Messiah, and Brittania (complete with the beast described by Daniel (and the Bloodline in the heart of the placard - sometimes I suspect there were three original sons. Three fleur-de-lis):
http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/DavidStar.jpg
And the same symbols are revered by the militant arm of the Priory of Sion, the Knights Templar:
http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/sword.jpg
quote: The Century Magazine article posted at the top of the thread makes perfect sense when you consider it along side the points made in this post.
I agree that we agree about the appropriate rant of Marcus Eli Ravage. That it puts things in perspective for both our theories.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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BatKol
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Posted - 08 Jan 2005 : 19:14:04
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David, The below was written by a Norwegian writer concerning Dan:
"..the claim that Denmark (Danmark most Teutonic languages) got its name from the Israelite tribe of Dan is false. Before the landmasses we today call Denmark got if s current name it was called Fyn, Sjælland and Jylland. The Jutes invaded Logres (known to us as England) from Jylland in the Scandinavian Iron-Age. The Angles invaded Logres from Fyn and Sjælland in the same era. The Saxons also invaded Logres at the time, but from southern Jylland and mostly northern Germany. That is the why we call Englishmen and Americans of Northern European descent "Anglo-Saxons". Before any of these abovementioned tribes, the Kymbri (Cimry) invaded Logres. The Kymbri came from Jylland as well.Then the Viking era began. The Norwegians, Swedes and Germans knew the Danes as "Skjoldungar" at this time. Skjoldungar meaning "Children of Skjold" (Skjold being a son of Wuotan - also known as Wðtan Gwodan, Wodan, Woden, Oden, Óðinn, Odin, Woðu, Godan etc.). During the Viking age the Danes were Christianised - against their will of course. They then started to send missionaries to Christianise the Swedes and Norwegians as well - aiding the other European powers at the time in their de-Paganisation of Scandinavia. Mentioning this I can point to a relatively unknown fact concerning the Viking age. That is, the Viking age actually began due to the attacks on Scandinavia and northern Germany by the Christian powers (trying to force their faith unto us) and not the other way around!
At this point the Norwegians and the Swedes started to call the Danes "Churchlords", as that was what they were, men of the Church trying to Christianise us, and we called their lands the "Churchlord-fields". This was in the late Viking age - id est. around year 900 in our time of reckoning. If we translate these words into Norse (old Norwegian/Swedish/Danish) it becomes "Danes" (Churchlords) and "Dan-mark" (Churchlord-field). In other words the name has absolutely nothing to do with the Israelite tribes of Dan! So this "evidence" in support of the British-Israel theory holds no truth either!"
Best, Steve
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