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Paul88
Regular Member
USA
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 Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 23:22:45
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| Don't even worry about it. I think he guy is and GW's salary! Anyway, I'm doing more and more research and my eyes are opening so much more everyday. Today I was standing next to my car and a cop pulled over behind me (this was next to a bank) and asked me for my DL! I asked, am I being arrested? He said, no but I want to know that this car wasn’t stolen. I asked what law I broke? He said, none, but I just want to make sure. In the end he left me alone. I am sick and tired of getting abused by these corporate slaves! I will not be one this is why I'm doing what I'm doing... Everyone else, stay strong and learn, even though its a very tough process sometimes. |
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Paul88
Regular Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 23:26:03
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| Did anyone use the affidavit of special appearance before? |
Edited by - Paul88 on 21 Jan 2004 23:46:14 |
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DanielJacob
Advanced Member
USA
138 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 00:00:36
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Paul,
Appearance, special or otherwise, cures all defects in process and gives jurisdiction to the court. You want to make visitation. |
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Paul88
Regular Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 14:11:41
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Originally posted by DanielJacob
Paul,
Appearance, special or otherwise, cures all defects in process and gives jurisdiction to the court. You want to make visitation.
So what do I do witht he paper work they going to send? Should I ask affidavit by special visitation? |
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Cornerstone Foundation
Advanced Member
uSA
254 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 16:16:47
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Is it the consenus of others viewing this that the statement DanielJacob made concerning "special appearance granting jurisdiction to the court" is correct?...That is interesting...
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Lewish
Advanced Member
uSA
496 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 16:44:26
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Paul,
Do you have a voter's registration card? Do you have a marriage license? Do you have a ????
If you have any of those things, "they" have jurisdiction. It doesn't matter what kind of appearance you try to put in.
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Cornerstone Foundation
Advanced Member
uSA
254 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 17:06:49
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We have been told that having a marriage license has something to do with the STATE having jurisdiction over the children produced by the married couple...Does a marriage license have anything at all to do with giving a police officer and subsequently a traffic court jurisdiction over a man or woman traveling in an automobile?
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Lewish
Advanced Member
uSA
496 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 17:19:12
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Marty,
I heard the attorney pretending to be a judge ask a man in court, if the man had sex with his wife. The man said occassionally. The pretender in the black dress said: "Well, then I have jurisdiction."
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Cornerstone Foundation
Advanced Member
uSA
254 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 17:29:27
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Lewish:
Because a judge "says" he has jurisdiction...does it necessarily follow that he does in fact "have" jurisdiction?
Would a higher court necessarily uphold the judges' presumption that he has jurisdiction?
Are we discussing...
a.) Personal jurisdiction?
b.) Statutory jurisdiction?
c.) Subject-Matter Jurisdiction?
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DanielJacob
Advanced Member
USA
138 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 17:54:37
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Paul,
By Ministerial visitation.
Comes Now, the Christ’s Lawful assembly at Lexington, grateful to Almighty God for our Liberty in the Christ, to humbly extend Greetings and Salutations to you from our Lord, Saviour and Testator Jesus, the Christ, and ourselves by Visitation, to exercise His Ministerial Powers in this Matter, in His Name, by His Authority, under Direction of His Warrant, Mandate and Will contained in His Holy Writ, revealed from the beginning both in His Testament written of Him in Holy Scripture and in Him everlasting: |
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Cornerstone Foundation
Advanced Member
uSA
254 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2004 : 18:12:29
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DanielJacob:
Have you used the "Ministerial Visitation" in a court hearing or in law briefs?
What was the result?
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DanielJacob
Advanced Member
USA
138 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 00:31:29
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Marty,
It is used in the process that is served on the defendents in your suit. Check out "Invoking God's Truth in Courts" on The Christ's Lawful Assembly link on the home page of this site.
Peace. |
Edited by - DanielJacob on 23 Jan 2004 00:42:10 |
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Walter
Advanced Member
USA
144 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 10:40:10
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Originally posted by Cornerstone Foundation
Is it the consenus of others viewing this that the statement DanielJacob made concerning "special appearance granting jurisdiction to the court" is correct?...That is interesting...
My understanding is that a special appearance for the sole purpose to challenge jurisdiction, and with no other matters discussed, does not grant jurisdiction. But I'm not the expert in this.quote:
Originally posted by Lewish
I heard the attorney pretending to be a judge ask a man in court, if the man had sex with his wife. The man said occassionally. The pretender in the black dress said: "Well, then I have jurisdiction."
Why would a man discuss ANY private matter with a "black-robed devil?" To do so, it seems to me, opens the field to any matter. I believe the proper response would have been to say that it is a private matter and none of their concern. |
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Cornerstone Foundation
Advanced Member
uSA
254 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 11:12:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Lewish
I heard the attorney pretending to be a judge ask a man in court, if the man had sex with his wife. The man said occassionally. The pretender in the black dress said: "Well, then I have jurisdiction."
Originally posted by Walter
Why would a man discuss ANY private matter with a "black-robed devil?" To do so, it seems to me, opens the field to any matter. I believe the proper response would have been to say that it is a private matter and none of their concern.
We agree with you.
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Bondservant
Forum Administrator
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 11:24:43
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| Marty, a Marriage LICENSE is a legal STATE contract that has nothing to do with a lawful Holy union in matrimony. They exist in two different venues: The LICENSE being a corporate legalistic privilege for two "personas" to agree to a legal contract; a Holy matrimony being the lawful and Spiritual union of an ecclesiastic Man and Wo-man. |
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Cornerstone Foundation
Advanced Member
uSA
254 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 12:03:32
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Bondservant:
The information you have given concerning the marriage license as opposed to the marriage covenant seems correct.
Now...can you or anyone else monitoring this forum answer the question we asked in the above post in reponse to remarks written by Lewish.
We perceive that Paul88 is trying to get some specific answers to help in a specific situation he is facing. Those responding seem to be branching off in many directions without responding to the specific topic that was raised here to help Paul88.
Can you help with this....Bondservant...or anyone?
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Bondservant
Forum Administrator
382 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 12:25:36
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| In their system, any "special appearance" is an appearance in their venue. According to their legalistic civil and criminal BARfly rules, a "special appearance" can only be made to challenge jurisdiction and not the case itself. Some believe that this is a gray area as to whether or not a person - appearing by "special appearance" according to their RULE of "Law" - is in or outside of their court BAR. Personally, I believe ANY appearance in their venue is absolutely subject to their legalistic venue and jurisdiction, so I would never "appear" by special appearance according to their "BAR Rules". Instead, I make my "special appearance" clearly from outside their BAR standing in my separate venue, the ecclesiastic visinage, in the form of an ecclesiastic abatement. This is basically what has been set forth in the original and amended "Non-Statutory Abatement" available through their mirror site here at http://ecclesia.org/truth/ |
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Robert-James
Advanced Member
uSA
353 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 21:27:21
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Greetings All.
Caleb, our brother presented himself in THEIR court, to clear up a matter concerning GORDON...in New Zealand, which is under the jurisdiction of Queen Elizabeth...read "The Crown". This presentation is possible, if One knows who He Is. All else is folly. Non-statuary abatements are the Law of the Land, then again, One must be Standing on Land, no matter how weak the knees are! David Merrill planted seeds on this tree's behalf. America was intended to be a Plantation...a planting of Trees of Righteousness? I have said it before, and shall say it again: My Pilgrim ancestors came to the New World for the sake of the advancement of the Christian faith, and the King of England. Not for riches, honor, glory...which the johnny come lately's came! GORDON was translated into the Kingdom of His Dear Son, between being arrested, and his court date. All the time it takes, is within the twinkling of an eye. {shoot-was that the rapture?}
Some sons have appeared in THEIR COURT, bringing His court with them. "I Will {Yah] enter His courts with Praise. Send Judah First.
Shucks, think there is layers of understanding within the scriptures? I do. |
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Manuel
Advanced Member
USA
762 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2004 : 22:00:14
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Greetings,
Under His Hand, I handed them an Ecclesiastic Demand for Written Bill of Particulars.
To this day, and His Will, their hellish jurisdiction has no authority over me, as an Ambassador for Christ, for His authority has full force.
His Grace and Will be a testament In Light to all whom see,
I am,
Manuel |
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Paul88
Regular Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 01:02:32
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Originally posted by Lewish
Paul,
Do you have a voter's registration card? Do you have a marriage license? Do you have a ????
If you have any of those things, "they" have jurisdiction. It doesn't matter what kind of appearance you try to put in.
Lewis
I don't have any of them, but do have DL :( |
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I was just arrested!
