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RevokeTheTrust
Senior Member

USA
57 Posts

Posted - 15 Jan 2006 :  16:49:27  Show Profile  Visit RevokeTheTrust's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Greetings and blessings brother Linc!

Our Father sends more than fertility; He sends infantry, and sends milk for the babes that are not among them at the line; His infantry are not "adults" as qualified to receive any limited liability and benefice from an armory of man. Further, I am not to limit the context of God: He is God of the living, not a mere fertility God. If any waive their penis in the air, then I'll waive my pen in the air. If you want to waive a Sword in the air, then I'll lend my ear to hear it.

"Gnostic" is your word, not mine. If by "Gnostic" you mean to accuse that I believe myself to be God and none above me, then I'll only confess that I am taught to be godly over my properties and effects alone, and submit to the truth in all ways; the flesh restrains the soul, and I am not allowed to speak of things unseen and unheard; God the Father sent a man to sow seed with another, and by no other dictates may I be judged by man but by godly men as yourself. There is small errata; what man take God's seed to sow, and claim he is God over the seed? I am thankful for reproving these words;

John [8:28]
"[28]Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things."

first book of John [2:27]
"[27]But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

second Kings [17:28]
"[28]Then one of the priests whom they had carried away from Samaria came and dwelt in Bethel, and taught them how they should fear the LORD."

second Chronicles [6:27]
"[27]Then hear thou from heaven, and forgive the sin of thy servants, and of thy people Israel, when thou hast taught them the good way, wherein they should walk; and send rain upon thy land, which thou hast given unto thy people for an inheritance."

Proverbs [29:18]
"[18]Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

Hebrews [12:8-10]
"But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.[9]Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?[10]For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness."

What good am I to be a son of Man? Is the glory of God to be stolen and silenced under the cruel and unusual transient causes of ungodly men, not giving sacrifice to bring up children of God in the admonishment of the LORD? Studying various aspects to man, they are content of their actions; often emptily speaking to eachother and accusing as infidels or ignorant to forsake of eachother their liberty to study and prove theirselves as honorable; I will not lie, to say that thou art an infidel, but think thou had reproached unknowingly. Are we not seeing at eye to eye?
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Linc
Advanced Member

Canada
111 Posts

Posted - 16 Jan 2006 :  03:45:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RevokeTheTrust
first book of John [2:27]
"[27]But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."



How is it then that teachers were appointed by the Separated Spirit in the congregation? For, to some it was appointed to be teachers. Is it not saying merely that we should not reverence human teachers as guru/gods, but as fellow servants of the Christed one?

I suspect I have not yet been anointed. If the spirit is guiding me, it is a slow process. No flash of light on the road to Damascus. And yet, the truth gets clearer day by day, as I study to obey the Instructions of my Father, who delivered them to our forefathers.

How I long for the day he sends his prophets to speak directly to us, in plain words, what his will is, and to give meaning and clarity to his instructions. If even five righteous Torah keepers were to meet every Shabbath in an upper room, I think miracles would start to happen. If 120 such gathered, could the Separated Spirit fail to manifest as it did on Pentecost, with flames of fire above peoples heads? Would they fail to even take over an entire city of millions of people?

quote:
I will not lie, to say that thou art an infidel, but think thou had reproached unknowingly. Are we not seeing at eye to eye?



I don't have authority to make claims about my status. That is in God's eyes. I do know that understanding you is harder than understanding the Apostle Paul. I can't say I see eye to eye with you, because much of what you say is opaque. You trigger word associations with vast amounts of deep meaning in them, which often seem to conflict with the surface things you say. If I'm wrong, I apologize. But I'm not yet completely certain that I'm wrong.

Why not come straight out and say "I obey the commandments, and marriage licenses are a sin"? What does it profit you here in this forum to be circuituous? A Gnostic mortifies the flesh in a vain attemp to fortify the spirit, ever chasing a state of "clear" where their Divine spark can shine through, eschewing children and family life. Where do you fit in?
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kevin
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uSA
100 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2006 :  04:48:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it seems to me that this world of posting about questions and statement usually turn into pissin matches.

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Oneisraelite
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uSA
833 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2006 :  06:40:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of Yahuwah; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

"The Ten Commandments are our Law[1], for on these two [tables of stone[2]] hang all the Law and the Prophets, and we believe that we are to seek license (permission) from the Father of the bride. For most that Father is the STATE. So if a person is a citizen of the STATE, get a damn license from the STATE, and quit complaining. However, if a man is, in Truth, a fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisra'el[3] and wishes to marry a woman who is "of the world" (a citizen of a man-made country or nation), she must first, with full understanding, make the following vow."

Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy 'Elohiym my 'Elohiym: Where thou diest, will I die, and there will I be buried: Yahuwah do so to me, and more also, if ought but death part thee and me.

She must be fully aware that after taking this vow the STATE is no longer her 'Elohiym (Judge, Lawgiver, King & Saviour, i.e. God), it is no longer her Father (parens patriae), she can no longer turn to the STATE for her benefits, privileges and protection; she must be cognizant (aware) that she has now returned to her former state, her original 'Elohiym, her first Father, Yahuwah, and she must now ask (pray to) Him for all her needs. As many here may perceive, this takes a leap of faith even most men are unwilling to take.

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of Yahuwah.

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked...


[1] And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments. - Exodus 34:28

[2] And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even Ten Commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. - Deuteronomy 4:13

And those "two tables of stone" are:

Thou shalt love Yahuwah thy 'Elohiym with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.

And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

[3] Also known as the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of heaven, or just plain heaven (Phi. 3:20).


brother Robert: fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisra'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional USA.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19
An act done by me against my will is not my act.



Edited by - Oneisraelite on 18 Jan 2006 16:50:37
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Oneisraelite
Advanced Member

uSA
833 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2006 :  07:00:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greetings and salutations, brother Linc:

Peace be unto the house.

You wrote: "I don't have authority to make claims about my status."

We respond: Ah, but you do, dear brother, you do, Yahuwah has delegated to you, and to you alone that authority, and no one but you, can declare it for you.


fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisra'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional USA.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19
An act done by me against my will is not my act.

Edited by - Oneisraelite on 18 Jan 2006 07:08:52
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Linc
Advanced Member

Canada
111 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2006 :  18:44:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by oneisraelite
You wrote: "I don't have authority to make claims about my status."

We respond: Ah, but you do, dear brother, you do, Yahuwah has delegated to you, and to you alone that authority, and no one but you, can declare it for you.[/font=Book Antiqua]



I've never performed a miracle, and I still have a hard time distinguishing right from wrong. Make of that what you will.
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