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Walter
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USA
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 Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 10:25:37
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I've learned that the name of this country is "United States of North America," at least for international usage. See: http://home.earthlink.net/~walterk1/Patr/US/USNA.html
This name also appears on various old maps.
I gather that "The United States of America" refers to the confederacy?? While the "United States" was a name for the congress and is now (by unsubstantiated claim) merely a corporation formed in England (as is "United States of America").
Reading the explanation in another thread, I still don't understand what "united States of America" really means. But regarding grammar rules, I've seen that coin naming this country as "Unity States of America." Does anyone have any insight into this? Thanks. |
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Walter
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 11:13:54
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I found a page that has a picture of the "Unity States" coin: http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/washingtonia/1783_washington_unity_states.htm
Also, I find it interesting to see a modern usage of "Unity States of America" here: http://www.parliamentofindia.nic.in/lsdeb/ls10/ses1/0218099108.htm
"This is the period when we have seen how the mighty Unity States of America and its multinational allied forces under the pretext of defending peace went far beyond the UN mandate and committed a virtual genocide in Iraq. True that Iraq's action in Kuwait was indefensible but the way the US waged war against Iraq, even its civilian population, the way it acted as an international policeman, self-appointed and self-proclaimed, violated all norms of civilised international behaviour." |
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Bondservant
Forum Administrator
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 : 20:43:55
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| Walter, an obvious difference in "name" for the land we live on can be seen in the federal passport application which refer to everything as "U.S." and "U.S. Citizenship", etc. But the funny part is, when you look at the passport they issue, it says "United States of America", not "United States". |
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spyboy
Occasional Poster
USA
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Posted - 10 Feb 2004 : 02:10:12
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Greetings, and many blessings!
I have heard (not personally verified) that some have recieved passports in the status of an "american National who is not a United States Citizen".
Something really interesting; There is the "Department of State of the United States of America" and the "United States Department of State". But of course mostly what you hear is the State Department/Department of State. I wonder who???
Peruse the website and you may notice the differences.I spoke with them on the phone for 30 min. and they "just dont know about that".
Also, check out the laws/codes/statutes/rules/regulations/orders etc.(no, they are not the same at all) with a diserning eye for the distinctions of the following;
1)American Citizen/United States Citizen/citizen of the United States
2)State/state
3)President of the United States of America/President of the United States (especially in Treaties and Executive Orders)
4)Supreme Court of the United States/United States Supreme Court/supreme court of the United States of America
5)district court of the United States/United States District Court
6)Congress of the United States of America/United States Congress
7)Peace officer/Police officer/Law Enforcement officer
8)Attorney at Law/Attorney in Law/Counsellor of Law/Counsellor/Lawyer
That should be enough for now. I am interested to share substantial research and thought about these matters. In peace. SpyBoy |
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DanielJacob
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 10 Feb 2004 : 12:34:25
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Spyboy,
Check out the posts on the Saving to Suitors board on Yahoo. I posted several comments there concerning the fact that most, if not all, of the so-called current government officials wear two hats, the de facto and de jure. The de jure is their Ministerial duties in which they can exercise no descression in actions; the de facto is the Administrative side and as Roscoe Pound pointed out, the law is whatever comes out of their mouths.
Peace. |
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Robert-James
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uSA
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Posted - 10 Feb 2004 : 19:50:47
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America is not corrupt, American's have been corrupted. Noah Webster, a fine wordsmith is quoted, "I was born an American, live as an American, and shall die an American".
Walter, from a previous post... the word Unity. Echad. One. One out of many...is on the Seal. Linclon knew very well that the Jesuit power was attacking America, from the north and the south. The synthesis was the UNITED STATES. Of course THEY had to kill Lincoln at the end...of THEIR war. www.tuppersaussy.com and his "Rulers of Evil" has some good clues. I have read the Roman defination of the word America and the English version, and both are bankrupt logic. |
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Caleb
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Philippines
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Posted - 05 Mar 2004 : 04:50:33
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A piece of the puzzle missing in this discussion is how these names are written. I saw a picture of George W. Bush in front of Air Force One (I assume) and it was immediately obvious that he was president of the UNITED STATES. This is a corporation, not a country. The Treasury of the United States is bankrupt, the UNITED STATES (or U.S.) TREASURY manages that bankruptcy. The first is the country, the second is the corporation. And yes, to cover this up, they get the same man to wear two hats, such as Secretary of the Treasury and TREASURY SECRETARY. Just look at the letterhead. The ALL CAPS names tell the honest truth.
You were born into the country, but you were not born into the corporation. A U.S. Citizen is a member of the corporation. This is voluntary membership. Membership does have its privileges, such as voting for your member of CONGRESS, and of course, the PRESIDENT.
From what I've been able to figure out so far, in America you want to identify only with your lawful state government, such as the Republic of California (not the CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC), and never with the FICTITIOUS conglomeration known as the United States, regardless of how it is written. The term "united states of North America" is the safest and most correct thing to use when speaking of the whole, because it is not the name of anything! It is simply a means of describing all the independent states on the North American continent. There actually is no country consisting of all these states put together. Just try imagining the "united states of Europe" as a single country and you'll get the picture.
What confuses everyone is that the corporation acts as a Unity, and pretends to be a country when it does so. The independent states are all bankrupt, so they have faded into the background and let their corporate mirror-image run the show. Of course, the state corporations are merely sub-corps of the UNITED STATES. Arguments about "State's rights" and the like are pure bread and circuses.
"Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end"
Isaiah 9:7 |
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