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BatKol
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 Posted - 29 Dec 2003 : 19:55:48
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Robert-James said: Dear BatKol...ready to find the Way home? May I steer your vessel to the prodigal son story? Let me be your captain for the moment?
BatKol: I am very interested in continuing this portion of the thread under the topic Yahushua not AKA JESUS.. see my response there. |
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eljofa
Regular Member
Poland
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 02:25:48
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Originally posted by Robert-James
The beast system has a MARK..........NAME ..............NUMBER. and the system DECEIVETH those in the world. A bar code with the ss# encoded, stamped on the hand or forehead will deceive no-one. The deception is going on daily. The ss# and a CAPITAL lettered name represent the number and name of those who worship the beast. Worship is the key word to figure out.
one thing has to be understood
now a days you can buy anything you want without a social security.
Drug Dealers that are illegal in the USA, they dont have social
security, and even the police wont bug them. and they have whatever
they (materialy-consumable) want or might want.
the mark of the beast is going to be like money
I explain myself
right now money is the currency, and without it you cannot buy or sell.
even drug dealers use money.
SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the mark of the beast is going to be the currency.
and even drug dealers will need it to pursue their tasks
i mean not even a condom you will be able to buy without it.
and today my friends illegal immigrants without social security
have better material things than all of us. and that is withouth a SS
so SS is not the mark. but a deceiving method to try to deceive the
very elect. and freak them out.
in the coming world if you make just one transaction you already lost
yourself.
the mark of the beast is going to be the currency and without it
you wont get even CHEWING GUM.
that is my observation, hope it helps someone
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BatKol
Advanced Member
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 09:59:15
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Greetings eljofa,
Sadly, I agree with you 100%. Be warned you will find great resistance
to this idea amongst the group here.
Peace to you,
Steve |
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eljofa
Regular Member
Poland
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 16:36:38
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Originally posted by BatKol
Greetings eljofa,
Sadly, I agree with you 100%. Be warned you will find great resistance
to this idea amongst the group here.
Peace to you,
Steve
thanks and
peace to you too
and to all who want to receive it in the name of Jesus
i have made a study of symbols that symbolize 6, 66 or 666
here it is,
http://mesh-inc.com/symbols.jpg
this symbols have 6 or 66 or 666 very well hidden in them but it is
there, if you want to see :)
thanks
eljofa
peace to all of you |
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Robert-James
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Posted - 29 Mar 2004 : 17:18:23
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Dear eljofa,
pray tell how one can even acquire currency without a Socialist SECURITY number? Today! Future-ists keep thinking everything is tomorrow. When Today is the Day of salvation.
Might you read...markofthebeast. Steven Miller's fine work keeps being shutdown in cyberspace, and then comes up again somewhere else. It would be a fine read for you to refute or learn from. Maybe someone knows how to acess it? {a friend of mine made copies years ago, so I don't need to depend on cyberspace for the info}
A National Socialist {a card carrying social security numbered person} is considered a pauper within the U.S. Constitution. Paupers have no rights, except the privalege of being a 14th Amendment citizen, who only has Civil rights. Civil rights, come directly from Rome.
Civil law and Roman law are the same. So you think 666 connects one to the vicar of Christ, Mr. Pope? You are right. There is a day-night difference between an American and a U.S. citizen. American's do not have ss#'s, we can pull up our own pants.
I agree that things will get much more difficult, shortly. But, if one can not overcome the ALL CAP identity and live without socialism via the ss# now, fat chance they will have to overcome the beast come crunch time! |
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BatKol
Advanced Member
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Posted - 29 Mar 2004 : 18:58:48
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Robert-James,
Why a SS#? The current FRN has everything required to be the mark of the beast. Each note has the NAME of the CORP, a serial number, not to mention the note it's self as the literal mark.
I put this to Steve Miller personally in an e-mail on 4/13/02 and his reply was verbatim:
"the image (greek word icon) of the beast in Rev 13:15 is the same word used when Christ spoke the image of Caeser on the coin, when he told us to render unto Caeser that which is Ceaser's" |
Edited by - BatKol on 29 Mar 2004 19:11:59 |
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God is Love
Senior Member
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Posted - 29 Mar 2004 : 21:20:16
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Greetings with love, all.
I am getting ready to read through this thread in it's entirety. Prior to that I'd like to make some comments regarding Revelation chapter 13 verses 15 through 17.
It states: "And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast. And it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name."
Also note chapter 13 verse 14: "And it misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that were granted it to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived."
This two-horned wild beast was said to have lamblike horns, giving it the appearance of innocence. Obviously, this wild beast is not innocent, as we can see in verses 14 and 15.
So what is the purpose of the image of the wild beast? What is the image? The image of the wild beast is the image of the seven-headed wild beast. The image of the wild beast promotes worship of the seven-headed wild beast, perpetuating its existence. This image comes about after the seven-headed wild beast is revived from the sword stroke. This is referring to a time period, the end of the first world war.
This image is not like the statue which Nebuchadnezzar erected mentioned in Daniel chapter 3 verse 1: "Neb-u-chad-nez'zar the king made an image of gold, the height of which image was sixty cubits [and] the breadth of which was six cubits. He set it up in the plain of Du'ra in the jurisdictional district of Babylon." This statue Nebuchadnezzar put up was lifeless. He put it up in order to strengthen the unity of his empire. It stood 90 feet in height and 9 feet wide. Scholars, due to its immense size, believe this "gold" image was likely made of wood and then overlaid with gold. There are many opinions about what this statue actually was, whether it was a pillar, or an obelisk, a pedestal upon which a human-like statue stood, perhaps an image of Nebuchadnezzar or the god Nebo. What was important was its significance, that being it was representative of the Babylonian empire, set up to be seen by all and revered. Unlike Nebuchadnezzar's statue, this image of the wild beast has life breathed into it by the two-horned wild beast so that it may play an active role in our world's history.
As history shows us, this image is an organization. Britain and the United States proposed, promoted and supported this image. It was originally known as the League of Nations. This League reappears in chapter 17 (recommended reading) as the living, breathing scarlet-colored wild beast, living independently. This international organization claims to be the only one to hold the answers capable of bringing peace and security to mankind. This is a falsehood, of course. In reality, it is a place for member nations to argue and insult one another. The nations that do not bow down to its authority are threatened with a living death, ostracism. Those that fail to abide by its ideologies are generally expelled.
Revelation chapter 7 verse 14: "So right away I said to him: "My lord, you are the one that knows." And he said to me: "These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
chapter 17 verse 8: "The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world."
verse 16: "And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire."
Here we see that when the great tribulation comes, the beast will fulfill its intended part, more than likely using those innocent appearing horns in a militant fashion.
The United Nations, the image of the wild beast, has already introduced itself as a killer, ever since World War 2. In 1950 the UN sent forces to the war between North Korea and South Korea. Along with the South Koreans, the UN forces killed nearly 1.5 million North Koreans and Chinese. Between 1960 and 1964, the UN armies were in the Congo (Zaire) perpetrating their evil. Popes John Paul the 6th and John Paul the 2nd have been behind this image along with world leaders, proclaiming it is man's last and best hope for peace. The belief by these leaders is that unless the UN's agenda is served, mankind will wipe himself from the face of the earth. Those who don't go along with this one world government will be killed at the very least in a figurative sense. The UN craves worship as the one world government, and will stop at nothing to achieve this aim.
Deuteronomy chapter 5 verses 8 and 9: ""'You must not make for yourself a carved image, any form like anything that is in the heavens above or that is on the earth underneath or that is in the waters under the earth. You must not bow down to them or be led to serve them, because I YHWH your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons and upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation, in the case of those who hate me;"
John goes on to see how the political parts of the UN are maneuvered by Satan to bring terrible suffering to the remaining ones of God's woman's seed.
Genesis chapter 3 verse 15: "And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.""
The wild beast is further described in Revelation chapter 13 verses 16 through 18. Verse 18 reads: "Here is where wisdom comes in: Let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a man's number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six."
The name of the wild beast is the number 666. Throughout Biblical history the number 6 has been equated with YHWH's enemies.
1 Chronicles chapter 20 verse 6: "And there came to be war again at Gath, when there happened to be a man of extraordinary size whose fingers and toes were in sixes, twenty-four; and he, too, had been born to Reph'a-im." This man was a Philistine.
The image we read about that Nebuchadnezzar erected was 6 cubits wide and 60 cubits high, designed to unite his political officials together in worship. Note Daniel chapter 3 verses 1 through 23. This is the account when the servants of YHWH refused to worship this image and were thrown into a fiery furnace.
Following the number six, we have the number seven, which has always represented completeness from the standpoint of YHWH. A six in triplicate accentuates imperfection threefold.
Note that John said this name, a number, was a man's number, not a spirit person's number. This confirms the earthly nature of the wild beast. This wild beast is human government. Six falls short of seven, and 666 is six to the third degree. We see what is happening with the power of this world's political system growing more and more every day. Yet it falls terribly short of YHWH's standard of perfection, and falls short of the number 7. This worldwide government is supreme on this earth, ruling three major components, which feed the system of power; politics, the majority of religion (the Vatican and all other "churches" contracted with government for financial reasons, as well as those promoting STATE marriages), and corporate power. These 3 elements of 666 feed this one world wild beast of a government, oppressing the people and persecuting YHWH's followers.
What is the meaning of the mark?
Deuteronomy chapter 11 verse 18: ""And YOU must apply these words of mine to YOUR heart and YOUR soul and bind them as a sign upon YOUR hand, and they must serve as a frontlet band between YOUR eyes."
These words were spoken when YHWH provided Israel with the Law. Its meaning was that the servants of YHWH were to keep this Law constantly before them, so that it would influence their every action and thought.
Revelation chapter 14 verse 1: "And I saw, and look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and thename of his Father written on their foreheads."
We see here that the 144,000 said to be anointed have their Father's name and His Son's name written on their foreheads. This shows they are the property of YHWH and His Son.
Satan also uses a mark, the mark of the wild beast, in imitation of YHWH. As is predicted, all those who are involved in buying and selling are pressured to do things the way the wild beast does them. Pay your taxes, follow the rules, run your business this way, pay that way, use this tender, rule upon rule upon rule ad nauseum regarding buying and selling, including the presumption of the national debt being placed upon us and our offspring, and the franchising of our good name at birth. All that is against the Law of YHWH his servants are pressured to do. Worship is expected from the servants of YHWH by the wild beast through compliance to codes which are an abomination to our Master, for the wild beast to continue perpetuating its existence and power. Allowing this beast to rule their lives marks them on the forehead/hand, as the Israelites were marked by YHWH when he introduced them to His Law. Those who refuse to be marked by the wild beast will have constant problems. Surely these problems have included since the 30's court battles, violence, and persecution to name a few. Those who refused to comply in the past have ended up in concentration camps, many now dead. Since world war two, countless young men have suffered long imprisonments, suffered torture and had their lives ended because they refused to compromise their Christian neutrality. In many lands Christians are unable literally to buy or sell, or even own property. Many are raped, murdered, and removed from their native land because they stand on their neutrality and refuse to buy political party cards.
John chapter 17 verse 16: "They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world."
This persecution is alive and well in some areas of the earth today. The movement toward freedom is scorned. Those who stand for the truths contained in the Scriptures are set aside by their friends and families. We must never lose our faith, despite this.
Matthew chapter 10 verses 36 through 38: "Indeed, a man's enemies will be persons of his own household. He that has greater affection for his father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me."
chapter 17 verse 22: "It is while they were gathered together in Gal'i-lee that Jesus said to them: "The Son of man is destined to be betrayed into men's hands,"
We live in a world that worships material wealth, where dishonesty is an everyday way of life, not only accepted, but encouraged. Those who have faith in YHWH and trust in YHWH must believe that YHWH will support them in pursuing a wholesome path.
Psalm chapter 11 verse 7: "For YHWH is righteous; he does love righteous acts. The upright are the ones that will behold his face."
Hebrews chapter 13 verse 18: "Carry on prayer for us, for we trust we have an honest conscience, as we wish to conduct ourselves honestly in all things."
We live in an immoral world. We must be determined to remain pure. Our body is our temple and we must strive to keep that which is unhealthy from our bodies, despite pressures to do otherwise.
Acts chapter 15 verses 28 and 29: "For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!""
1 Peter chapter 4 verses 3 and 4: "For the time that has passed by is sufficient for YOU to have worked out the will of the nations when YOU proceeded in deeds of loose conduct, lusts, excesses with wine, revelries, drinking matches, and illegal idolatries. Because YOU do not continue running with them in this course to the same low sink of debauchery, they are puzzled and go on speaking abusively of YOU."
More and more, as government sticks its fingers into each and every corporation, creating and contracting with them, and as unemployment rises, it becomes more and more difficult to find gainful and righteous work. We cannot and should not have to compromise our integrity by contracting with companies that contract with government. It is an adhesive contract, is it not? I have discovered personally how difficult it is to find work without being identified as a government created franchise via the social security number.
Micah chapter 4 verse 3: "And he will certainly render judgment among many peoples. and set matters straight respecting mighty nations far away. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. They will not lift up sword, nation against nation, neither will they learn war anymore."
verse 5: "For all the peoples, for their part, will walk each one in the name of its god; but we, for our part, shall walk in the name of YHWH our God to time indefinite, even forever."
I believe that the mark comes in many, many forms. And it is very difficult to live in the present day world without the mark.
Revelation chapter 7 verse 9: "After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands."
Those who put YHWH first and live in His ways, and refuse to receive this mark should unite. How else can we live as separate miracles, and not be bound by the ties of the wild beast? The wild beast and its image permeates the majority of the world! We are taught in Scripture to not forsake the gathering together of ourselves for strength. Perhaps the formation of an actual community should be considered?
Psalm chapter 34 verses 1 through 3: "I will bless YHWH at all times; Constantly his praise will be in my mouth. In YHWH my soul will make its boast; The meek ones will hear and will rejoice. O magnify YHWH with me, YOU people, And let us exalt his name together."
I encourage any additonal comments to my comments, opinions, etc., as I have been attempting for a long time to piece this puzzle together. I can't help but feel after all that has happened in my life, both positive and negative, and looking back over it all, seeing where my path has led me, that I am learning the things I am learning for a reason. I do believe that we are living in a very important time in world history and while no man knows the day or hour, I have a feeling, perhaps mistaken, perhaps not, that we are looking at drastic changes in the world over the next decade to two decades. Again, no one knows but YHWH when He will give the word for His Son to step in. I kept help but to feel that time is very close.
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Oneisraelite
Advanced Member
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Posted - 29 Mar 2004 : 22:53:43
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Greetings and salutations in the name of the King:
Peace be unto the house.
In a word...Bravo!
Something that may or may not add to your understanding:
Deuteronomy chapter 5 verses 8 and 9: ""'You must not make for yourself a carved image...
Deuteronomy 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image...
Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English
GRAVE, v.t. pret. graved; pp. graven or graved. [Gr. to write; originally all writing was graving; Eng. to scrape.]
In other words, it could very well be that this verse is referring to STATUTES as well as STATUES.
Once again, thank you for your efforts.
fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisra'el, NOT the STATE OF ISRAEL. |
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Manuel
Advanced Member
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Posted - 29 Mar 2004 : 23:32:10
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Greetings In His name, The Life Giver, Yahushuah,
Mi corazon esta contento (My heart is joyful)with words which ring Truth in my ears as I behold that which was, Is, and is to come.
Manuel
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God is Love
Senior Member
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 00:35:34
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More thoughts on Revelation.
Chapter 12 verse 9: "So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him."
verse 17: "And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of YHWH and have the work of bearing witness to His Son."
We see in these Scriptures that the dragon was cast down to the earth. Scripture states that after this point the dragon and his angels are no longer allowed entrance back into heaven. We are then shown in 17 how Satan will go after the seed of the woman.
John speaks of the dragon further in chapter 13 verse 1: "And it stood still upon the sand of the sea. And I saw a wild beast ascending out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, and upon its horns ten diadems, but upon its heads blasphemous names."
The first part of this verse speaks of the dragon standing still upon the sand of the sea.
As the heavens no longer suffer for the presence of the dragon Satan and his demons, as they were kicked out of heaven and are confined to the earth, we are the ones feeling the results of this occurrence here. Due to this the rise of the occult has become prominent in the last century. This Serpent is superhuman, along with his organization. He is organized and methodical, calculating, and powerful. However, not only does he use his spirit followers to manipulate mankind, he also uses an organization visible to us all. The second part of verse 1 speaks of the seven headed ten horned wild beast.
Verse 2: "Now the wild beast that I saw was like a leopard, but its feet were as those of a bear, and its mouth was as a lion's mouth. And the dragon gave to [the beast] its power and its throne and great authority."
The Scriptures tell us who this beast is.
Daniel chapter 7 verses 2 through 8: "Daniel was speaking up and saying: "I happened to be beholding in my visions during the night, and, see there! the four winds of the heavens were stirring up the vast sea. And four huge beasts were coming up out of the sea, each one being different from the others. "The first one was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I kept on beholding until its wings were plucked out, and it was lifted up from the earth and was made to stand up on two feet just like a man, and there was given to it the heart of a man. "And, see there! another beast, a second one, it being like a bear. And on one side it was raised up, and there were three ribs in its mouth between its teeth; and this is what they were saying to it, 'Get up, eat much flesh.' "After this I kept on beholding, and, see there! another [beast], one like a leopard, but it had four heads, and there was given to it rulership indeed. "After this I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! a fourth beast, fearsome and terrible and unusually strong. And it had teeth of iron, big ones. It was devouring and crushing, and what was left it was treading down with its feet. And it was something different from all the [other] beasts that were prior to it, and it had ten horns. I kept on considering the horns, and, look! another horn, a small one, came up in among them, and there were three of the first horns that were plucked up from before it. And, look! there were eyes like the eyes of a man in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking grandiose things."
The Jewish prophet Daniel saw this beast before the fall of Babylon in 539 B.C.E. Then John also saw this wild beast in the year 96 C.E. The beast John saw had the characteristics of the lion, the bear, and the leopard, and had ten horns, as well as seven heads, ten diadems being upon the horns.
Daniel chapter 7 verse 17 identifies what the beasts are: ""'As for these huge beasts, because they are four, there are four kings that will stand up from the earth."
These beasts identify political powers on the earth.
Daniel chapter 8 verses 3 through 8: "When I raised my eyes, then I saw, and, look! a ram standing before the watercourse, and it had two horns. And the two horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller was the one that came up afterward. I saw the ram making thrusts to the west and to the north and to the south, and no wild beasts kept standing before it, and there was no one doing any delivering out of its hand. And it did according to its will, and it put on great airs. And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a male of the goats coming from the sunset upon the surface of the whole earth, and it was not touching the earth. And as regards the he-goat, there was a conspicuous horn between its eyes. And it kept coming all the way to the ram possessing the two horns, which I had seen standing before the watercourse; and it came running toward it in its powerful rage. And I saw it coming into close touch with the ram, and it began showing bitterness toward it, and it proceeded to strike down the ram and to break its two horns, and there proved to be no power in the ram to stand before it. So it threw it to the earth and trampled it down, and the ram proved to have no deliverer out of its hand. And the male of the goats, for its part, put on great airs to an extreme; but as soon as it became mighty, the great horn was broken, and there proceeded to come up conspicuously four instead of it, toward the four winds of the heavens."
verses 20 through 25: ""The ram that you saw possessing the two horns [stands for] the kings of Me'di-a and Persia. And the hairy he-goat [stands for] the king of Greece; and as for the great horn that was between its eyes, it [stands for] the first king. And that one having been broken, so that there were four that finally stood up instead of it, there are four kingdoms from [his] nation that will stand up, but not with his power. "And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, there will stand up a king fierce in countenance and understanding ambiguous sayings. And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power. And in a wonderful way he will cause ruin, and he will certainly prove successful and do effectively. And he will actually bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of [the] holy ones. And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken."
These beasts are political powers. The Greek word for beast the-ri'on conveys a cruel, destructive, frightening, ravenous monster. A brute. I would say this aptly describes the political systems by which Satan has dominated mankind with bloodshed. The seven heads of the beast in Revelation stand for six major world powers which existed throughout Scriptural history up to John's day. These are Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. And the seventh world power?
Revelation chapter 17 verses 9 and 10: ""Here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. And there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while."
While there have been other world powers not mentioned above during our history, we should note that the beast not only had seven heads, but also had a body, and ten horns. The seven heads are prominent, representing seven major world powers. One after the other has taken a turn at oppressing YHWH's children.
In 33 C.E., Rome was used by Satan to kill YHWH's Son. It was at this time that the faithless Jewish system was abandoned by YHWH. Later, in 70 C.E., Rome was allowed to execute judgment on the Jews. YHWH's people, the true Israel, were forewarned, and those in Jerusalem and Judea fled beyond the Jordan River to safety.
Matthew chapter 24 verses 15 and 16: ""Therefore, when YOU catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,) then let those in Ju-de'a begin fleeing to the mountains."
Galatians chapter 6 verse 16: "And all those who will walk orderly by this rule of conduct, upon them be peace and mercy, even upon the Israel of YHWH."
Over time, by the end of the first century C.E., many from the early congregation had fallen away from the truth. However, those who live in the conclusion of the system of things, those heeding YHWH's call, will organize together as a group. There is work for YHWH's children.
Matthew chapter 13 verses 24 through 30: "Another illustration he set before them, saying: "The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man that sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat, and left. When the blade sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds appeared also. So the slaves of the householder came up and said to him, 'Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it come to have weeds?' He said to them, 'An enemy, a man, did this.' They said to him, 'Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?' He said, 'No; that by no chance, while collecting the weeds, YOU uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest; and in the harvest season I will tell the reapers, First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up, then go to gathering the wheat into my storehouse.'""
verses 36 through 43: "Then after dismissing the crowds he went into the house. And his disciples came to him and said: "Explain to us the illustration of the weeds in the field." In response he said: "The sower of the fine seed is the Son of man; the field is the world; as for the fine seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one, and the enemy that sowed them is the Devil. The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen."
The Roman Empire has been replaced by the British Empire in alliance with the United States of America. They are the current world powers, the seventh head of the beast.
Since World War 2 things have become progressively worse and worse in these countries, with belief in YHWH being replaced with faith and belief in science.
It's interesting that the current world powers are represented by beasts. The British Empire has the symbol of the lion, America the eagle, China the dragon, and Russia the bear.
Isaiah chapter 40 verse 15: "Look! The nations are as a drop from a bucket; and as the film of dust on the scales they have been accounted. Look! He lifts the islands themselves as mere fine [dust]."
verse 17: "All the nations are as something nonexistent in front of him; as nothing and an unreality they have been accounted to him."
Psalm chapter 2 verses 10 through 12: "And now, O kings, exercise insight; Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth. Serve YHWH with fear And be joyful with trembling. Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed And YOU may not perish [from] the way, For his anger flares up easily. Happy are all those taking refuge in him."
Satan has given the wild beast its great authority. If these nations had any sense they would walk in YHWH's ways.
Scripture, as I understand it, does not teach that Satan is a myth, or that he torments souls in a fiery hell, at least not from what I have read. Rather, Scripture describes Satan as a deceiver who has powerful influence over political affairs.
2 Corinthians chapter 11 verse 3: "But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, YOUR minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ."
verses 14 and 15: "And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works."
Ephesians chapter 6 verses 11 through 18: "Put on the complete suit of armor from YHWH that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. On this account take up the complete suit of armor from YHWH, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm. Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplace of righteousness, and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU wil be able to quench all the wicked one's burning missiles. Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, YHWH's word, while every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit. And to that end keep awake with all constancy and with supplication in behalf of all the holy ones,"
The wild beast with seven heads has ten horns. It don't think it actually says, however, perhaps there were four heads with a horn each, and three heads with two horns each. On its horns are ten diadems. Revelation and Daniel both speak of beasts. The two horned ram represented a world empire made up of partners, Media and Persia, while the four horned goat represented four empires existing together which grew out of Alexander the Great's Greek empire.
Note Daniel chapter 8 verse 3, the ram with two horns. Verse 8 we see the goat with four horns.
The beast that John saw, however, there are ten horns numbered.
Daniel chapter 7 verse 24: "And as for the ten horns, out of that kingdom there are ten kings that will rise up; and still another one will rise up after them, and he himself will be different from the first ones, and three kings he will humiliate."
Revelation chapter 17 verse 12: ""And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast."
The number ten also stands for completeness in Scripture. Perhaps these ten kings represent the complete union of powerful states that make up the political organization controlled by Satan. All of the world powers are violent and aggressive, however, as history has proven, there is usually only one world power at a time. Despite this, could it be that the U.S. and British alliance are uniting the world by going into all the various countries and taking over? Thus the ten diadems indicating a joint sovereignty under one world power? Many government states coming together as one under one primary ruler? All ruling together with the dominant power? A one world government?
It is clear that the wild beast is disrespectful of YHWH and His Son, and has blasphemous names upon its heads. It uses YHWH and His Son as a sham to achieve its political goals. The Vatican and most organized religion takes part in the political sphere. The House of Lords in England includes the bishops. In France and Italy Catholic cardinals have played prominent political roles. In Latin America priests have taken political office. Governments use religion to promote their political agenda. "IN GOD WE TRUST" is on their bank notes and coins, claiming supposed divine approval for their rulers, as if they are appointed by YHWH's grace. This is all blasphemy, as it is involving YHWH in bloody nationalism and politics.
Isaiah chapter 17 verses 12 and 13: "Ha for the commotion of many peoples, who are boisterous as with the boisterousness of the seas! And for the noise of national groups, who make a din just like the noise of mighty waters! The national groups themselves will make a din just like the noise of many waters. And He will certainly rebuke it, and it must flee far away and be chased like the chaff of the mountains before a wind and like a thistle whirl before a storm wind."
The government comes from the people, who are often depicted in Scripture as turbulent sea.
From the days of Nimrod (21st century B.C.E.) post-Flood, the wild beast came forth from the sea of humanity, as humanity began to oppose YHWH.
Genesis chapter 10 verses 8 through 12: "And Cush became father to Nim'rod. He made the start in becoming a mighty one in the earth. He displayed himself a mighty hunter in opposition to YHWH. That is why there is a saying: "Just like Nim'rod a mighty hunter in opposition to YHWH." And the beginning of his kingdom came to be Ba'bel and E'rech and Ac'-cad and Cal'neh, in the land of Shi'nar. Out of that land he went forth into As-syr'-i-a and set himself to building Nin'e-veh and Re-ho'both-Ir and Ca'lah and Re'sen between Nin'e-veh and Ca'lah: this is the great city."
chapter 11 verse 1 through 9: "Now all the earth continued to be of one language and of one set of words. And it came about that in their journeying eastward they eventually discovered a valley plain in the land of Shi'nar, and they took up dwelling there. And they began to say, each one to the other: "Come on! Let us make bricks and bake them with a burning process." So brick served as stone for them, but bitumen served as mortar for them. They now said: "Come on! Let us build ourselves a city and also a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a celebrated name for ourselves, for fear we may be scattered over all the surface of the earth." And YHWH proceeded to go down to see the city and the tower that the sons of men had built. After that YHWH said: "Look! They are one people and there is one language for them all, and this is what they start to do. Why, now there is nothing that they may have in mind to do that will be unattainable for them. Come now! Let us go down and there confuse their language that they may not listen to one another's language." Accordingly YHWH scattered them from there over all the surface of the earth, and they gradually left off building the city. That is why its name was called Ba'bel, because there YHWH had confused the language of all the earth, and YHWH had scattered them from there over all the surface of the earth."
We are in the Lord's day. The last of the seven heads is fully manifesting itself.
Luke chapter 4 verse 6: "and the Devil said to him: "I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it."
The dragon is the one who has granted power to the powers that be. Satan has created our current political system amongst mankind.
John chapter 12 verse 31: "Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out."
Any thoughts? Please share! I'll continue reading the thread in the meantime!
Freedom, Love and Peace to you all!
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eljofa
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 09:37:21
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Originally posted by Robert-James
Dear eljofa,
pray tell how one can even acquire currency without a Socialist SECURITY number? Today!
my dear brothers in tribulation
drug dealers acquire money without any id.
so then, drug dealers and all illegal workers who have no SS in the USA
they all survived the beast :)
they learned to live and prosper without a SS.
they sell the drugs and buy them without a SS.
illegal mexicans work in the US without a SS
illegal dominicans and europeans , etc work in the US without a SS.
so please, SS is not the mark.
because the bible is clear and absolute
YOU WILL NOT BUY OR SELL WITHOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
right now you can get whatever you want without a SS
drug dealers have mansions and everything they want and do not
have SS.
remember please the story of the ten wifes, that Jesus spoke of
the night got cold and they turned their lamps,
and they used their oil,
the same thing is thinking that the SS is the mark,
for is only a prelude, the mark will surely come,
please people look at this photo from the Second World War
the mark of the beast is going to be like the jewish badge in world
war 2
and will be the same, all the jews had to have it,
and the mark of the beast is going to be like that
everyone will have to show their allegiance to the beast
like the jews had to show their ethnicity
those that choose to live under the beast will have to show their
allegiance to the beast
here you can see the image, of jews wearing the badge
which for world war 2 became the mark of the beast.
now everyone will have to wear the mark too.
we are not there yet, but if u wish to think we are, and u have
or ever had a SS then you are doomed and there is no salvation for you, cuz you carry your sign of allegiance with you.
excuseme are people being killed because of not having social security?????????
NO!!!!!
they are doing very fine, and better than you and me, if you dont
believe me ask your local drug dealer , you will see for yourself.
the bible says that whosoever doesnt get it or worship the beast is
put to death
the impatient man thinks everytime the phone rings, the call is for him.
and we are thinking just because it looks like it it is.
you are being deceived if you think SS is the mark,
the SS is not good but is not the mark,
and excuse me again
a LOT OF PEOPLE WORK EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD WITHOUT ID OR SS.
if you dont believe go to new jersey and look at any factory
and see for yourself
you can give money to someone without the state knowing
the mark of the beast, even when you give a person on the street
(youre every transaction) will be notified,
now you buy and the state doesnt know
when the mark is established it will be all notified
like this
-- you went to deli juan
-- you bought a ming
-- which costed you 1 dollar.
so everything you do or buy or sell the state knows
and of course they will help you so that
if you go to a bar you cant have more than 2 drinks hehehehehe
because the system loves you too much to have you drunk :)
remember the kid who cried wolf too many times, and then when the wolf
came, no one believed him, and they were all consumed
just like that will be the mark
beautiful and attractive and nothing like social security but instead
the one perfect solution to unite all of us in peace and harmony and prosperity
the mark will even involve a chip in the brain with which you can even
pass thoughts to your fellow human brothers,
and everyone will love that
the mark of the beast is A New Consciousness Arising,
Stablishing an era of Light
provided by the light bearer himself Lucifer.
and do you think that the top of lucifer is just the stupid social security?
god said that he was going to deceive those who take the mark,
so the mark will change your consciusness.
because without the mark you cannot be deceived, for the tricks and
lying wonders donot work without the mark.
but let me tell you that without a social security drug dealers
have mercedes benz
so please stop telling people that the stupid SS is the mark.
enjoy
hope it helps
fabian
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God is Love
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 10:52:37
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Originally posted by oneisraelite
Something that may or may not add to your understanding:
Deuteronomy chapter 5 verses 8 and 9: ""'You must not make for yourself a carved image...
Deuteronomy 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image...
Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English
GRAVE, v.t. pret. graved; pp. graven or graved. [Gr. to write; originally all writing was graving; Eng. to scrape.]
In other words, it could very well be that this verse is referring to STATUTES as well as STATUES.
Once again, thank you for your efforts.
fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisra'el, NOT the STATE OF ISRAEL.
Greetings oneisraelite,
Thank you for your comment! I pray that YHWH blesses you and yours!
I looked up graven image and the root word for graven in Hebrew appears to be pacal (paw-sal) which means to cut or hew, to hew into shape, to hew out, quarry. This is an interesting point you make, because a long time ago writings were hewn into stone, before the use of papyrus and paper/ink became common. Is anyone aware of when the use of paper/ink is dated in Scripture?
Then we have the term "bow down" or shachah (shaw-khaw) which means to prostrate oneself, to give homage to, to treat as God or as a god.
To serve comes from 'abad, which means to work for, to labour for, to serve as a subject, to serve as if God or a god, to make oneself a servant, to be enticed to serve.
It could very well be that statutes were engraved in stone during this time? I can't recall when the use of papyrus began. At any rate, to serve as a subject an image (the flag, or seal, etc.?) could fall in there?
I looked at the word "statute" and it comes from a Hebrew root chaqaq (khaw-kak') which means to cut out, to decree, inscribe, set, decree, portray, govern, engrave, trace, mark, to give laws, which I find very interesting.
To serve a graven image, one subjects oneself to that which is cut out/formed. A statute is "cut out" or "formed" to govern.
I also looked up the Hebrew words of "law" and found that when a man gives a law it is a "statute" which is "cut out", chaqaq, such as when Joseph made "law" in Egypt. However, when YHWH makes Law it is towrah (to-raw') or torah (to-raw'). This definition mainly has to do with instruction and guidance, with no mention of statutes, however it does mention "codes" of law. So it does appear there are two different types of law. Am I on the right track here with there being a difference in laws according to Scripture?
Thank you, oneisraelite!
Freedom, Love and Peace to you and yours!
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God is Love
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 11:01:29
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Fabian,
Greetings with Love,
What about "legal tender"? Can one "buy or sell" without "legal tender"?
Also, I speak from experience that it IS very difficult to operate in this system without an SSN. I have been turned down four jobs that would otherwise have hired me because I no longer want to take part in the social security program. If such denial continues, I fear I may have to once again contract with the beast. The UN does indeed run the social security system/program, does it not? I am not saying that this is exclusively the mark. However, it is an association that I no longer want to have. Do you feel contracting with the government is showing allegience to that government? Isn't one funding this organization by doing so? Is being subject to its statutes serving this entity? Please share further thoughts on these subjects when you have the time and will.
Freedom, Love and Peace to you and yours!
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eljofa
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 11:03:59
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hi
After Cain killed Abel,
God put a mark on cains forehead,
Today, the only religious leader that has a mark on the forehead is
BUDDHA
as seen on this picture
so people please
the mark is imminent and is going to be just as literal
there are dozens of ways on how to make 666 without doing just plain literally
here are some examples of 666 graphically made
*Image removed by moderator due to oversize*
pretty much, you can make it in many different ways, and many people
have made of many different ways,
the number 6 you can play with it in many ways
and here you can clearyle see
a woman with a lot of sixes and with a pendant on her forehead
the mark has been here since satan deceived Adam,
the implementation on humas is coming soon
thanks and hope it helps
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eljofa
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 11:40:56
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quote:
Originally posted by God is Love
Fabian,
Do you feel contracting with the government is showing allegience to that government? Isn't one funding this organization by doing so? Is being subject to its statutes serving this entity?
if you contract with the government you show allegiance to the government,
and everyone by just paying taxes is doing so,
now! that doesnt mean you belong to the government
Jesus draw the line 2000 years ago when he said
Give to God what is to God and to cesar what is to cesar.
Jesus helps you understand what is of God and what is of cesar.
the body belongs to God. and also your soul.
money and tax law and social security belongs to cesar.
i explain myself, as long as that SS is not printed in your body,
that social security is a piece of paper with printed numbers in it
and it was printed by cesar for the purposes that he appoints it to.
and he is responsible of it.
if you print or mark the social security (which belongs to cesar)
in your body that belongs to God) you then are saying (and only
the one who does this action says that)
that, that which is of God is of cesar. for you have put the mark of
cesar in the property of God.
NOW!!!!!!!!
cesar printing or engraving anything or that number in you (meaning
in the body that is not HIS, neither yours) is a crime and is punishable
by the law of God.
and if you allow cesar to mark the body (which is the temple of God)
you are guilty too.
when cesar marks you then you will be like the SS,
property of cesar.
and then as jesus said,
that which is of God will be given to God, and that which is of cesar (for he has mark you as his) will go to cesar
i cannot be more clear.
not all the keys that fit the keyhole open the door :)
which means the SS (even i thought once that could be the mark)
but truthfully it is not.
so i hope i explained myself.
you will have to give your life for him when the moment comes,
if the SS would be the mark and you had rejected it you would be dead
by now.
the fact that you are alive and all that is denied to you is a
job, prooves that withouth SS you cannot get a tax paying job.
meaning that you need to be hired as an illegal immigrant.
thats all that it prooves.
when the mark comes, you will know, and when you reject it you will be
completely cast out.
not cast out like the illegal immigrants, but even the illegal immigrants wont want you or me around
hope i explained myself better this time
thanks to Jehova and Jesus and the Holy Ghost
fabian (eljofa) & marysia
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Oneisraelite
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Posted - 31 Mar 2004 : 06:44:52
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Greetings and salutations in the name of the King of Yisra'el, God is Love:
Peace be to the house.
You: "Am I on the right track here with there being a difference in laws according to Scripture?"
In our humble opinion; indeed you are, in both the Old and the New Covenants.
One more witness is the etymology of the word "statute" found in Webster's New World Dictionary of American English - Third College Edition, copyright 1988, page 1310:
statute n. [[ME < OFr statut < LL statutum, neut. of L statutus, pp. of statuere: see STATUE]]
"see STATUE"...is a pretty strong clue in our humble opinion.
We read this in the New Covenant:
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances [G1378] that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross...
G1378 - dogma
Thayer Definition:
1) doctrine, decree, ordinance
1a) of public decrees
1b) of the Roman Senate
1c) of rulers
2) the rules and requirements of the law of Moses; carrying a suggestion of severity and of threatened judgment
3) of certain decrees of the apostles relative to right living
Noticably missing from this list, is any mention of "commandments"!
But what solidifies what is said here is found in the next verse, which we have completely dissected [rightly divided]:
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Anyone wishing to see our treatise on this verse; we would be happy to e-mail it to you.
Suffice to say, it was not talking about YaHuWeH's Moral Law, The Ten Commandments, as many of our brethren have been taught in houses made with the hands of men.
Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English
COMMANDMENT, n. 1. A command; a mandate; an order or injunction given by authority... 2. By way of eminence, a precept of the decalogue, or moral law, written on tables of stone, at Mount Sinai; one of the ten commandments. Exo 34.
STATUTE, [L., to set.] 1. An act of the legislature of a state that extends its binding force to all the citizens or subjects of that state [condition or status]...
American Law and Procedure, Vol 13, page 137, 1910: "...The law of persons is the law of status or condition."
Now, to add to this understanding we look up the word "translate".
Webster's New World Dictionary of American English - Third College Edition, copyright 1988, page 1421:
translate 1. to move from one ...condition...to another; transfer; specif., a)Theol. to convey directly to heaven without death.
This should make sense to anyone who has read the Scripture for it is written:
Mattith'yahu [Matthew] 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Mark 12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
Luke 20:38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living...
So, by extrapolation, we had best figure this out, at least for those who follow us, before we die [physically].
Oh, and by the way, IF and WHEN 'money' is done away with, and we have gone to a pure debit system, we shall see what is the MARK OF THE BEAST [SYSTEM].
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God is Love
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 16:11:31
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Greetings, eljofa,
Revelation was a vision, obviously. One of the things that sticks out to me about the vision, is the number 666. Six has throughout the Scriptures represented the imperfection of man. There are three sixes there which I imagine were seen for a reason. Today there are three basic "agencies" which feed the beast. These are politics, religion, and big business. Politics feeds the beast by confusing the real issues and encouraging the payment of taxes and encouraging allegiance to the beast by involving others (making them feel obligated) in siding on irrelevant issues. Religion, of course, such as the Vatican, runs things, such as the U.N. Priests file tax forms with the IRS (run by the IMF, run by the U.N., run by the Vatican) thus pledging allegiance and encouraging others inadvertently and outright to pay taxes, further feeding the beast. We also have priests blessing the wars that so many people die in. Such things are a repulsion to our Grand Creator. Then we also have big business (corporate America) further feeding the beast by contracting with Federal agencies and State agencies and paying into the system. While at some point we may have a literal mark, the mark which was put upon Cain's forehead, in my mind, represented the Laws he followed. He did not follow the Law of YHWH. He followed the laws of Satan. We acquire the mark on our right hands when we sign unconditional contracts with these agencies who feed the beast. Think about it. It is nearly (but not totally) impossible to function in society without being contracted in some way to one of these three agencies. The majority of people are feeding into this beast without even realizing it. It comes down to the mark on your head and hand, your thoughts and your contracts. This is just the way I see it now. I wouldn't doubt though that agencies will begin to implant chips in people as technology improves. They cannot do this, however, without first getting one's consent. Perhaps it will get to the point when those who do not consent to the beast will be put to death. Hitler's Germany all over again.
Freedom, love and peace to you and yours!
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God is Love
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 16:17:35
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One Israelite,
Thank you for sharing that information! Very, very interesting!
What is this treatise you speak of?
May YHWH bless you and your loved ones continuously!
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God is Love
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 17:21:21
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Greetings,
More thoughts on the beasts of Revelation.
Revelation chapter 13 verse 11: "And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon."
verses 12 and 13: "And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind."
This beast has two horns. If the horns represent political powers, what partnership do we currently see? Note, this beast comes out of the earth, not from the sea. Perhaps this beast comes from what has already been established on earth, Satan's system of things, his organization of evil. A world power during the time of the end. Two horns, thus a partnership.
The seventh head of the first wild beast might be the current world power. Perhaps this second beast represents the same as the seventh head of the first wild beast, the Anglo-American World Power. While it is seen as a separate beast, we also should recognize that the Anglo-American Power does work independently on the world stage from all of the past governments, and yet is one of many. The partnership of the U.S. and Britain. It's horns "like a lamb" makes it appear mellow and inoffensive. A beast with lamb's horns would be easier to turn to in times of crisis, easier to follow if a form of government. Despite it's lamblike horns, it speaks "as a dragon". The current dual world power does indeed use pressure and threats and straightup violence when it's sovereignty is challenged. Such acts do not encourage the people to turn to YHWH, but rather to serve the great dragon, both out of a lack of knowledge to turn elsewhere, and out of fear. The dual world power promotes nationlism, division and hatred, through the media by bringing various issues to the television screen, newspapers and radio regarding these three infantile concepts, all of it's agenda being similar to that of the first wild beast.
This two horned beast also peforms great signs and makes fire come down from heaven.
Matthew chapter 7 verses 21 through 23: ""Not everyone saying to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?' And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness."
Elijah, ancient prophet of YHWH, took part in a contest with the prophets of Baal. He called down fire from heaven, with success, in the name of YHWH, and proved he was truly a prophet of the Father and that the prophets of Baal were false. Note 1 Kings chapter 18 verses 21 through 40.
The two horned wild beast feels, like the prophets of Baal, that it can prophesy, and promises security from terrorism, drugs, and you name it, big brother can "protect" you.
Revelation chapter 13 verses 14 and 15: "And it misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that were granted it to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived. And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast."
Revelation chapter 19 verse 20: "And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur."
The U.S./British alliance pretends to be a force for good, with lamblike horns, and through two world wars has destroyed "evil" with the blessing of the Vatican. It claims to protect it's people from godless communism. It claims to protect the people's interest in liberty and the material way of life so many have become accustomed to within these nations.
So perhaps this two horned second beast is the U.S. British alliance. This beast gives breath to the image of the seven-headed wild beast, perpetuating its existence. This image was given life following the sword-stroked seven-headed wild beast's revival, to promote worship of the seven-headed beast. So we have the U.S./British alliance (second beast) giving breath/life to the U.N. (image of the beast) in order to perpetuate the life of the seven-headed beast (representing government or man ruling man from the time of Nimrod on, the seventh head being the U.S./British alliance itself).
Make any sense?
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God is Love
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 17:48:38
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Perhaps this mark on the forehead are our thoughts and the mark on the right hand are our acts which support those thoughts, including what we sign with that right hand.
Throughout the book of Matthew our Father's Son tells us that despite the confusion in the world, and the varying beliefs, that we will all have problems, and that there is a way out in the long run. Small are the number of people who treasure the words of the Son, who study them and apply them. The Sermon on the Mount is a fine example of good counsel regarding YHWH's promises to his followers. Told and untold benefits await those who heed those words. Our treasures will build as we read and reread the words of the Son, as he provides us a path to true happiness. He tells us what morals we should hold close to our hearts, the rules of marriage, the power of love, how we should pray, that our treasures should be in heaven and not in materialistic earthly things, that we should seek first the Kingdom and show respect for our Father, and to keep our eyes open and follow the Laws of the Father.
Can one follow the laws of our Father and still feed the beast? Can one ride the fence? Presumption is made from tacit silence. It is considered an admission when dealing with the beast. Perhaps the mark may be refused by following the laws of our Father and through our right hand we refuse signing contracts that empower the beast. After all, the beast only gains power by our assent (signing agency contracts unconditionally promising to do or not do something). Just some thoughts. As always, I could very well be mistaken.
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Mark of beast - 666 - Revelation 13:15-18
