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David Merrill
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Posted - 26 Dec 2004 :  16:05:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's an interesting letter I believe was posted on a similar forum to ecclesia.org. "SOB" is for Statement of Birth. I am not sure if they exist as such in all States. I am importing the letter here because I shared the Birth Certificate documentation a page or two back that disclosed the same commercial entry and the stages of alteration from true name, to legal name and finally to the nom de guerre in all upper case.

quote:
Hi again Frank, My SOB is on its way already, we've had success in court
with it already here, they don't want to open the can yet it seems, they
cannot argue with their own proof, if they do, it proves the fraud of
the birth certificate and all other identity paper.
The lawyers for the registrar general up here admitted to us that the
birth cert was never intended for ID, and that it has nothing to do with
people! We have made the birth cert Id by choice, all charges against
any name other than your given name, which does not include the surname,
are against themselves, they recieved any and all value associated with
the name on the birth cert, hence they are responsible for the charges,
they own the name on the birth cert. My given name is Timothy Andrew,
that's it, if I even choose to use my "given name" period. They need a
surname to charge a "person", they need a body to show up on "account"
for the "person", we keep giving them all the above. They need a "NAME"
for accounting purposes, "People" are not supposed to be in commerce.
The only thing that can make the distinction to them is the SOB, because
it identifies two separate parties. Can anyone say BINGO? Besides, who
said that you ever were gonna use your given name anyways? Did your
father know that when he signed the SOB that you were going to use that
name? Yet he signed as correct and true that it was the name you were
going to use. Did they remove you from your mother into another room
when you were born? How did your father know the same baby came back?
Thing is, you have no first hand knowledge of anything to do with the
creation of the name, the father and the registrar do, why doesn't the
court or whomever, contact the parties which gave rise to the name?
It goes on, get a certified copy of the SOB, study it and see how much
fun you uncover with it, the mystery is slowly unravelled right before
your very eyes.
Give me your address, and I will send you a video explaining the
details.
Timothy Andrew, for now anyways.


http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_certification.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_certification2.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_certification3.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_certification4.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_certification5.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_la-metaphysique.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_soldier-qua-mathematica.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_soldier-mathematical.jpg

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David Merrill
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Posted - 28 Dec 2004 :  19:03:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This might be some great intelligence about artificial entities. The man who posted this on another website says his "sources" have identified one of these two terrorist suspects to be a CIA cover entity.

Now that the agent is no longer using the identity it would seem that it may have not run out of use for moving money and propagating a domestic threat.

http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/js2164.htm

But then again it may be bogus information or even counterintelligence. So be careful. It is probable that the man is real and may be involved with Al Qaida.

The reason I post it is the direct testimony. The Treasury seems to be an intelligence agency and law enforcement agency all rolled up in one.


Regards,

David Merrill.


http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/htm/append-t.htm

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David Merrill
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Posted - 20 Jan 2005 :  14:13:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sometimes I surf 'usenet' on the newsgroups:

Newsgroup Link

And there I found an interesting snippet:

quote:
Sometimes, an old post bears repeating.

The argument that people are not corporations, or that income tax requires a contract to be entered into before being enforced has been dealt with by the Courts in many cases. One of these is R. v. Pinno, [2002} SKPC 118 and which can be found online at http://www.canlii.org/sk/cas/skpc/2002/2002skpc118.html Perhaps what is most important is what the judge said at paragraph 24. I quote: "I have taken some effort to deal with all positions advanced by the accused to ensure him that he has been given full answer and defence to the within charges. I have also done so for the sake of clarity for those who would follow and raise similar arguments before the court on such charges of failing to file personal income tax returns. It is indeed unfortunate that otherwise law-abiding citizens can be influenced and manipulated in such fashion. The defendant freely acknowledged in his evidence and argument that the material presented to the court "came from higher up the chain." It is obvious that certain groups and organizations peddle such ideas, even apparently for a profit at seminars and through publications, striking responsive chords in those who believe such information legitimizes what in fact is nothing less than civil disobedience. Most assuredly, few people, if any, enjoy paying personal income tax and most would have strong, valid opinions as to how such tax revenue should be allocated. Such opinions must be expressed democratically through our elected institutions, not by buying into fallacious and ill-conceived dogma which results only in criminal sanction - not for those of course who profess it, but for those who act upon it. Such is the unfortunate result here for Mr. Pinno."


You can link to the opinion with the Canadian court and see he was adamantly declaring himself a "natural person". He even tries to define it to be something it is not - around Paragraph 13.

I recall arguing with a traffic judge saying, "I am not a person." He was stumped. He kept arguing I was a person and we went round and round. All I would have to say to stump him was, "I am not a person." I wore out first and like Mr. Pinno I finally said, "Okay, I am a natural person." The traffic judge said, "I can live with that", and convicted me, proceeding with the trial.


Regards,

David Merrill.


quote:
P.S. The above snippet is unverified. The link looks like an authentic Canadian court case opinion to me. Also on the newsgroup chatter, preceeding the above comment:



)It seems that over on "God's Word Forum" the Penhallow
deception was uncovered this summer.

See this exhange:


Werner Maximilian Posted - Jul 12 2004 : 5:10:02 PM


I have not read this case in it's entirety,but it sounds encouraging.
Government Is Foreclosed from Parity with Real People – Supreme Court of the United States 1795


"Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction,
and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with
other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor
substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the
tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as
well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. can concern itself with
anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts
between them." S.C.R. 1795, Penhallow v. Doane's Administraters (3
U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54), Supreme Court of the United States
1795

[--Not the "United States Supreme Court" –ed.]



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Lewish Posted - Jul 13 2004 : 1:39:32 PM


Hello Werner,


I would be curious as to where you got your copy of Penhallow v.
Doane. You see, the copy that I have, does not have the paragraph that
you have quoted and that I have seen quoted by many other people.
Perhaps yours is a more complete version, if so, where can I get a
copy.


And yes, my copy expressly states "Supreme Court of the United States"
and not U.S. Supreme Court.


Lewis



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Werner Maximilian Posted - Jul 13 2004 : 3:38:11 PM


Sorry Guys, I have to admit I'm guilty of a paste job of something I
found in my E-mail that sounded like what Repenter was seeking.



______________________________________
David Merrill Posted - Jul 13 2004 : 4:06:18 PM


Thanks Werner Maximilian;


Great lesson! Sounded real good though huh, Lewis?


Regards,


David Merrill



______________________________________
Abbot 4 cont.) Who wants to place odds Werner got his misinformation
from Eldon Warman?



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David Merrill
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Posted - 28 Jan 2005 :  09:28:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bill of Exchange Image 1
http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/BOE1.gif
Bill of Exchange Image 2
http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/BOE2.gif

The bill is cured waiver of tort. Simply speaking now I place good faith in the original estate I no longer have a bank account or sign indorsement on debt instruments (checks for FRNs). Thirty days is the cure time in law for such notice - see Daniel Chapter 6. So the bill cured from August 13 to September 11, 2001. [Finally someone got curious enough to ask!]

http://donswaim.com/biercenews.html

Find the article by "Karen Abbot" (Ctrl-F) on this blog about Ambrose Bierce. The judgment on that case was refused/rejected and mailed with another common law judgment* (I have no address) Postmarked September 12, 2001. That case had detailed maps from the Jewish Encyclopedia of Jewish claims in Manhattan Island. I call it the Manhattan Judgment. Since the Post Office and US Courthouse shut down on September 11 it is likely that the clerk was rejecting the common law judgment on the morning of September 11 as the planes were colliding in New York.

For there to be any authority in a judgment, one has to be able to make right in case of error. The taxpayers provide a fidelity bond behind public officials. Suitors, courts of competent jurisdiction and some of which are doctors using the bill for liquidity instead of malpractice insurance may use the bill of exchange to cover judgment whether in the operating room or the sure-dunk judgment - "did you have a judgment in place, properly filed in the district courts of the United States before you came after me, or not?" See the January 2, 2004 Post http://ecclesia.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=306&whichpage=3 - the simple Libel of Review counterclaim.

I really appreciate your questions. It tells me that people are not just blanking over while reading about this rather unbelievable bill and its effects on the course of human history. You may be the first here to mention the "oft-mentioned" bill of exchange other than me. Being into behavioral statistical probabilities and biomathmatica it makes me wonder how so many intelligent people focus only on subjective topics and debates. Here is somebody who just blurts out three succinct but pertinent questions on his or her first Post.



Regards,

David Merrill.


* I was helping a suitor at that time so they used his address to reject filing or even "receiving" both our judgments, mailing the Manhattan Judgment to his home address as well. The clerk was experimenting with how far he could go. I had tried to file it and they said since it was from another court they would not so I had sent them Registered Mail to Denver. I put a cover letter on the judgments saying that if it was in the US Courthouse where it could be retrieved, it mattered not how it was marked by the clerk, I considered it filed. The clerk sent the package back with a sticky on my cover saying "You are welcome." I was thanking him for his good work filing the judgments (keeping them). Which he of course was trying not to do.

After September 11, all such judgments have been properly filed but one. That was fairly recent. There was a coram vobis (Writ of Error from our court to your court; as opposed to coram nobis - Writ of Error within our court system) served on that judge who said something about since it had no federal judge's signature it was not a true judgment. Then within a few days the suitor had a friend in Denver try to get a certified copy and he failed. They have made sense since and now these certified copies of judgments are marked "Judgment not of this court." Which is proper because it recognizes a judgment made.

In Portland the clerk is flat out refusing Registered Mail from a suitor. That began with coram vobis served on a magistrate who tried to say the matter was not fit for admiralty. This promotes a cause before the Provost Marshal; disruption of the civil infrastructure 'judiciary' - when a clerk sees fit to refuse mail and to obviously deny access to the court. That is happening as I speak, the suitor is sending three packages to the clerk by private process server. If they stop the process the server will deliver it to the Provost Marshal at the nearest military base. If the Provost Marshal cannot deliver it then it is time to arrest the clerk for diverting cargo out of admiralty where all revenue causes belong (have you noticed the gold admiralty fringes?).

http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_AreYouLostAtSea.pdf
http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_Diagram1.jpg
Admiralty process

Edited by - David Merrill on 28 Jan 2005 10:12:11
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Werner Maximilian
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Posted - 28 Jan 2005 :  10:31:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suspect that many of us involved do not want to appear ignorant, uninformed or "out of the loop" when it comes to all this information, so it's much easier to pretend we know what the heck your talking about.

Probably a leftover survival mechanism from our public school days.
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David Merrill
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Posted - 10 Feb 2005 :  04:54:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
From your link above http://www.usagold.com/goldenchalkboard/gc_sdr.html

The SDR was established to serve as a form of "paper gold" benchmark, although it may itself devalue against gold in the real market...as you can see that its value is derived from forex rates among the four currencies as mentioned above. It was originally fixed to gold at a rate of 35 special drawing rights against each ounce...the equivalent to the dollar while we yet remained on the international gold standard prior to August, 1971
.

A bushel basket of fictional currencies. All debt based on failure of the infant to cry, "Dibs! I got dibs on this body!"... no matter should he grow over 18 years in it. By then he is spouting nonsense instead of his name anyway.

quote:
For 1000, you may call me a terrorist...can I R4C my way out of Guantanimo?


No need. The CIA cannot operate on American soil. And that goes for the United States too. To do so becomes a standing accusation against its creator, the people. Pretty simple.

Like your style. Hope you stay around here.


Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S.

quote:
Involve me and I will understand


Being chattel by your own identity crisis... is that involved enough for ya?

Hint: This is the echo chamber - http://ecclesia.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=378&whichpage=1

Edited by - David Merrill on 10 Feb 2005 05:12:01
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David Merrill
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Posted - 10 Feb 2005 :  09:53:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Some Bum: (To self: Before I ran outta monetized debt for the classes I 'member the Scientology guy say to always stop and define stuff you don't know)..."What is waiver of tort? Liquidity means cash right? What do you mean 'to cover judgement'?"


I presumed by the references to paranoia that the Scientology Guy was stopping in his explanation to coin words of art.

Otherwise waiver of tort, cash, liquidity and bonding (fidelity bond) are all the conventional terms found in English and law dictionaries. In other words, Lush did not ask for me to define the terms, he was just throwing out the question in general to anyone who could spare a 'couple sentences'. Why should he trust the author of the bill of exchange, whose main greedy goal is confidence and security building measures in it, to define the tangent terminology?

Specific verses of the Holy Bible make it clear that upon a state of cleanliness before the Lord we may approach Him in the Throne Room and make the demands of what has been promised by His Word given to us. Greedy as that sounds, I have. I published it and it cured on September 11 in Judgment. For $3.6q I suppose that makes me about the greediest of all; laying claim to all you see. The Bloodline keeps dwindling value of my bill every time I turn around!

Sunset: http://www.clubdeparis.org/en/ www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/Statement5.gif

quote:
Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.


quote:
From The Rosicrucian Manual; 1918 H. Spencer LEWIS p. 129 (personal bio)

After many yearso of continuous scientific and psychic research, even in the fields of wireless (radio) when this science was little known, he made his first contact with the work of the Rosicrucians through obtaining copies of the secret manuscripts of the first American Rusicrucians, who established their headquarters near Philadelphia in 1694. A member of the English Branch which sponsored the first movement in America, Mrs. Colonel May Banks Stacey, descendant of Oliver Cromwell and the D'Arcys of France, placed in his hands such papers as had been officially transmitted to her by the last of the first American Rosicrucians, with the Jewel and Key of authority received by her from the Grand Master... (emphasis mine)

p. 194 AMORC Book Advertisements

THE SECRET DOCTRINES OF JESUS

By H. SPENCER LEWIS, F.R.C., Ph. D.


Does the Bible actually contain the unadulterated words of Jesus the Christ? Do you know that from 325 A.D. until 1870 A.D., twenty ecclesiastical meetings were held, in which man alone decided upon the context of the Bible? Self-appointed judges in the four Lateran Councils expurgated and changed the sacred writing to please themselves...

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Posted - 10 Feb 2005 :  11:09:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Merrill

The CIA cannot operate on American soil. And that goes for the United States too. To do so becomes a standing accusation against its creator, the people. Pretty simple.

Cornerstone Foundation wrote:

It may be more accurate to state it this way. The CIA, according to the rules it purports to operate by, cannot operate on American soil.

In our opinion one would be quite naive to believe that the CIA does not operate on American soil.

We have also been told that; it is a fact that the United States Army's Delta Force is prohibited, by the Posse Comitatus Act, from operating against Americans on American soil....but....the children of the Branch Davidian Compound at Waco are just as dead as if there had been no Posse Comitatus Act.

Respectfully Submitted,

Marty



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Posted - 10 Feb 2005 :  11:18:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Merrill

The CIA cannot operate on American soil. And that goes for the United States too. To do so becomes a standing accusation against its creator, the people. Pretty simple.

Cornerstone Foundation wrote:

Is not the abuse and misuse of the the Trading With the Enemy Act and it's sequel, the War Powers Act the quintessence of a standing accusation against its "creator", the people.?

Respectfully Submitted,

Marty

Edited by - Cornerstone Foundation on 10 Feb 2005 11:24:19
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David Merrill
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Posted - 10 Feb 2005 :  11:29:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Far from it in a sublime way. [To quote my greatest oxymoron yet.]

The Trading With the Enemy Act originally names the German National and was implemented to avoid having to judge the domestically situated enemy against patriotic Germans here - establish internment camps and all that. The amendments of 1933 covered all persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

Another similar misdirected conclusion is that this means "citizens of the United States" by the 14th Amendment and it of course includes this catagory.

In other words I appreciate that the CIA is keeping, albeit mostly through 'farming' operations through foreign intelligence services like MI6 and the Echelon Projects, diligent watch on foreign terrorists here in this land. It is only persons that appear on thier screens. Not people.


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Posted - 10 Feb 2005 :  11:39:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Merrill

In other words I appreciate that the CIA is keeping, albeit mostly through 'farming' operations through foreign intelligence services like MI6 and the Echelon Projects, diligent watch on foreign terrorists here in this land. It is only persons that appear on thier screens. Not people.

Cornerstone Foundation wrote:

Would, for example Cathy and Kelly O'Brien be in the category of:

.......1. only persons that appear on their screens

.......2. people?

Best Regards,

Marty

Edited by - Cornerstone Foundation on 10 Feb 2005 11:42:37
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David Merrill
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Cathy and Kelly are appearing in their legal names. Prima facie evidence of a social compact as persons. However this does nothing to support the existence of CIA Mind Control camps or centers. [Presuming I remember the name Cathy O'Brien as a False Memory Syndrome victim who has written these false "memories" into a book supporting that phenomenon.]

Learn the facts: www.fmsfonline.org Chances are that Cathy was subject to a physical abuse or sexual trauma around age five. Later the CIA mental archetype arose out of deep hypnosis. Her therapist may be subject to malpractice admissions published in the book. Malpractice that damaged her recovery and slandered the CIA.

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quote:
Originally posted by David Merrill
I remember the name Cathy O'Brien as a False Memory Syndrome victim .....

Learn the facts: www.fmsfonline.org Chances are that Cathy was subject to a physical abuse or sexual trauma around age five. Later the CIA mental archetype arose out of deep hypnosis. Her therapist may be subject to malpractice admissions published in the book. Malpractice that damaged her recovery and slandered the CIA.

Cornerstone Foundation wrote:

We do not know much about the CIA, FMF (fmsfonline.org), Cathy O'Brien and Kelly O'Brien. Therefore, we can neither confirm nor deny what FMF alleges.

It is also true, that we can neither confirm nor deny the following quote by a man who claims to know a great deal about the CIA, FMF, Cathy O'Brien and Kelly O'Brien.
quote:
Quote by Mark Phillips...

The False Memory Foundation is a lobby group which is primarily utilized by persons charged with sexual abuse. The FMF is desperately attempting to develop legislation that restricts therapy for persons suffering from dissociative disorders as a result of trauma. This organization's stated beliefs include that repressed memory is a myth. FMF has found the mental health profession's Achilles' heel
May Yahowah's Set Apart Spirit guide those of you who have a "love of the truth" through this quagmire of diametrically opposed information... and for those who are not in that category may Yahowah's will be done.
quote:
It may be that 2 Thessalonians 2:10b-12 states what Yahowah's will is....

...those who are perishing, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason, Yahowah will send them strong delusion, that they would believe the lie, that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Respectfully Submitted

Marty

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David Merrill
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There are two organizations www.fmsf.com and www.fmsfonline.org

Neither one is FMF (False Memory Foundation?) and I know very little about any of them. I do not recall how I was exposed to the Hammond lecture. It was about a decade ago. www.fmsfonline.org/hammond.html" target="_blank">http://www.fmsfonline.org/hammond.html

When you brought up that name in specific I thought you were relating my statements about the CIA to FMS; due partially to a PM about a book about CIA Mind Control. My experience in the subject is just enough to convince me that it is a severe form of paranoia and people advocating it are very persistent so I avoid them. I think I understand, without any formal training the phenomenon through mental archetypes - common symbols at the basis of thought, like symbols in dreams. I believe that Allen Welsh DULLES, formative Director of Central Intelligence imported a lot of symbols from the Nazi Death Camps by forgiving Dr. Greentree and his ilk and giving them professional careers here in the USA.

In all honesty I was trying to keep to the point of the Topic. I just didn't want you to start construing CIA Mind Control into the conversation because you used these names in specific.

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David Merrill
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Yes indeed. I love to be quoted in part. What I actually said was...
quote:
Far from it in a sublime way. [To quote my greatest oxymoron yet.]
And maybe it was a poor choice "sublime" but just the same it is refreshing to have it twisted so.

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Book review: The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power by Joel Bakan
Movie review: The Corporation

Professor Joel Bakan
Faculty of Law
UBC
An internationally recognized legal scholar, Joel Bakan is a former Rhodes Scholar and law clerk to Chief Justice Brian Dickson of the Supreme Court of Canada. [Former Rhodes Scholar???]

This is the author of the book, The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power. After a short search on the reviews of the book, the movie that was made from it, and some interviews with Joel himself, we have come to the conclusion that it is mostly smoke and mirrors; the author DOES tell us that CORPORATIONS are PERSONS; he apparently does NOT tell us that virtually all GOVERNMENTS are CORPORATIONS, and he does NOT tell us that there are JURISTIC PERSONALITIES, called PERSONS, created for their CITIZENS and that these too are CORPORATIONS; he DOES tell us that DEMOCRACRY is good, contrary to what some of the greatest minds in history have stated; and since he is a “legal scholar”, we are very surprised to learn that he does NOT tell us: “A person is here not a physical or individual person, but the status or condition with which he is invested... The law of persons is the law of status or condition." (American Law and Procedure, Vol 13, page 137, 1910)
To sum it up, what Joel BAKAN, former¿ Rhodes Scholar, does NOT tell us, is far more important than what he DOES tell us.
Had he told us, for example, that virtually all GOVERNMENTS today are CORPORATIONS it would have contributed much to our understanding of the world around us. By that we mean, here are some of the attributes of a CORPORATION according to Joel BAKAN, a man with degrees in both law and psychology, “the corporation is an institution that is legally mandated to serve its own self-interest”; [it is] “a person that is incapable of being concerned about other people"; “you enter a moral world that is different from the other moral world you inhabit”; [it is] a “psychopath”…
Interviewer: “Do you really think that a corporation is a psychopath?”
Joel BAKAN: “Yes.”
PsychopathNOUN A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse. – The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000
"Did you ever expect a corporation to have a conscience, when it has no soul to be damned, and no body to be kicked?” – Shareholder activist Robert Monks quotes Lord Thurlow

You have just met, face-to-face, the CORPORATE-GOVERNMENT of the twenty-first century! Is it any wonder that it is referred to as a BEAST?

Excerpt from interview with Joel BAKAN:
quote:
JB: Well I am a Law Professor and I teach about corporations to my students, and I also did psychology as a degree. So early on in my psychology classes I learned what the definition of a psychopath is, in terms of what he is or isn't capable of doing. And as a law student, when you learn about the corporation, you learn two fundamental things: You learn that the corporation is a person and deemed a person by the law, and you also learn that the fundamental operating principle of the corporation is that it has to serve its own self's interests. So it is kind of an obvious connection that a person that is incapable of being concerned about other people, that's a psychopath, so that's where that idea came from. I guess the other thing about being a lawyer is that you learn to look at the corporation as a legal institution, in other words, you understand that it's created by the law, so it is an artifact – it's not a part of nature. It's not the building and the plants, but what it is really is a charter sitting in a corporate registry somewhere that's authorized by legislation. It's just sitting in a law book somewhere, so it is all kind of artificial. [Emphasis mine]

We perceive that Joel BAKAN is walking a fine line here, in that he apparently is trying to explain what a CORPORATION is without giving away the entire truth of the matter (We are perhaps falsely presuming he knows the truth); for instance, he can only “guess” that a CORPORATION is a LEGAL INSTITUTION and not a part of nature; if he had called it what it is, a LEGAL ENTITY, it might have been more revealing, he later calls it an “artifact” and further on states rather un-emphatically that it is “kind of artificial”.
No, Joel, it IS artificial, i.e. created through artifice, this is WHY it is called artific-ial!! [Joel obviously does NOT have a degree in English.]
Artificial persons. Persons created and devised by human laws for the purposes of society and government, as distinguished from natural persons. Corporations are examples of artificial persons. - Black's Law Dictionary - Abridged Sixth Edition, page 74
If CORPORATIONS are only EXAMPLES of ARTIFICIAL PERSONS, what are ARTIFICIAL PERSONS, Joel?
For your edification Joel, here are MSWord2000’s synonyms for the word artifice: pretense, ploy, trick, lie, sleight of hand, ruse, deception, [and] deceit; does that give you a better feel for it, Joel?
Joel BAKAN was asked later in this interview… “What do you consider to be a corporation?” …and here is the sum total of the answer received from this former Rhodes Scholar, “That's a good question.” Not very enlightening for someone with these kinds of credentials: B.A. (Simon Fraser) 1981, B.A. (Juris.) (Oxford) 1983, LL.B. (Dalhousie) 1984, LL.M. (Harvard) 1987
Joel states: “I don't think you can play around with the internal structure or the corporation..."
Now, for those who can read between the lines, Joel gives a good answer here, “don’t play around with...the CORPORATION”. And what are some of the synonyms (Ibid.) for the word play? “ fool around, participate, take part in [and] cooperate”; good advice Joel! Perhaps you have read my Law Book, for it gives the very same counsel:
2Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith Yahuwah, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you...
Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Yahuwah is only pleading for His people to come out of "her", hence those who are not "of" Yahuwah are apparently allowed to stay in the BEAST SYSTEM.


fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisra'el, NOT the STATE OF ISRAEL.

P.S. Joel Bakan has been sent a copy of this at the University.

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Statement of Fiction gods

The thought of God’s redeemed people remaining under the servitude and dominion and jurisdiction of sin, sin being worship of Secular god’s is too unbearable a thought and too cruel and unusual a punishment which results in our eternal spiritual death. Amen and amen.
God’s Commandment;
Exodus 20: 3 “Thou shalt have no other God’s before me.”
(1Corinthians 8:5) “For though there be that are called God’s, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be God’s many, and lords many,)”
(Daniel 2:47) …“Of a truth [it is], that your God [is] a God of God’s, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.”
(Galatians 1:12) “For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ”
(Isaiah 9:6) “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

Therefore, there is only One True king of this world with indisputable authority acting as our incorruptible judge, whose devotion to the supreme jurisdiction of the truth of God’s law cannot be swayed by emotion or material gain. One who, is our great general, inspiring not just love and devotion, but absolute trust and loyalty which we follow willingly, (Exodus 19:5) “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine.” (Hebrews 13:8) “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.” Amen and amen.

Therefore We, are commanded and forbidden by our Father, “Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh,” "I will be,” our God; the Sovereign creator of ALL Benefit (Colossians 1:16-17, Romans 11:36) to acknowledge benefit from secular worldly governments, for even the secular governments of this world receive ALL their benefit from Our Father in Heaven. ALL things even the money (mammon) belongs to God. (1Kings 20:3) “Thy silver and thy gold [is] mine; thy wives also and thy children, [even] the goodliest, [are] mine.” compare (Haggai 2:8) “The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts.” Therefore, I am forbidden to enter knowingly into surety, slavery, bondage, peonage covenants with strangers, and inquire among the dead (dead meaning fiction dead CORPORATE VESSELS equals PERSONS following the false doctrine and secular laws of unrighteous man-made God’s), (James 2:10) “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.” I Repent from the dominion of the unrighteous equals dead. (Luke 9:59-62) “But he said to him, 'Lord, let me first go and bury my father.' But he said to him, 'Leave the dead to bury their own dead; but as for you, go and proclaim the kingdom of God.' Another said, 'I will follow you, Lord; but let me first say farewell to those at my home.' Jesus said to him, 'No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God.'’

Therefore, so long as the “fiction of law”, civil law created by unrighteous man continues to create fiction dead CORPORATE VESSELS meaning PERSONS and ruling as fiction dead PERSONS demanding equity, surety of the redeemed living flesh for the manufactured debts of PERSONS for the sole purpose of monetary gain by means of surety and usury for the kingdoms of man. I am therefore dead to worldly kingdoms called out from among the WORLD by the Lord. Fiction STATE’s exist throughout the entire world in many forms and are a creation of man. Fiction STATE laws are not a creation of God they are the creation of man. These fiction STATE’s (STATE meaning all man made INCORPORATED governments not limited to COUNTY, CITY, and STATE which declare themselves Sovereign) as they do not observe Godly authority or Godly law and are therefore lawless. (Isaiah 1:28) “And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners [shall be] together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed.” The STATE’s have claimed themselves to be Sovereign, which means they claim themselves to be god. (Deuteronomy 5:7) “Thou shalt have none other gods before me.” compare (Exodus 34:14). The STATE’s claimed themselves to be lord by claiming jurisdiction over the soil. (Numbers 14:9) “Only rebel not ye against the LORD, neither fear ye the people of the land; for they [are] bread for us: their defence is departed from them, and the LORD [is] with us: fear them not.” The STATE’s claim themselves to be our master and require an oath from all men, as a sign of worship to their god STATE and goddess JUSTICE under penalty of perjury when entering into their de facto courts. (James 5:12) “But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and [your] nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation. (Luke 17:13) “And they lifted up [their] voices, and said, Jesus, Master, have mercy on us.”

Therefore, We, the children of our Father “I will Be what I will be, angilcized "I Am” and our Lord "Yehoshua" angilcized Jesus, the Christ, are forbidden by law to serve two masters. All people who cry out in the name of the ONE True Lord and serve another god in ignorance such as any STATE god’s might not be children of the One True God. Yehoshua Jesus, the Lord, said in (Matthew 7:21) “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” The STATE’s and heads of STATE mock our God’s laws, and declare as nonsense the will of our Father in Heaven and the redemption of his Son. (Micah 3:11) “The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, [Is] not the LORD among us?”

Therefore, unless we are born again, woken from our sleep, and called unto service to the Lord, Yehoshua Jesus, the Christ, we are not his people and he is not our Lord. However, if we are called unto service by Our Lord, Yehoshua Jesus, and if we truly love him as our Lord then we must repent. Repent peacefully but repent. I repeat Repent. These fiction STATE’s are not of the one True God our Father. (Malachi 3:7) “Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept [them]. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?” (2Kings 17:37) “And the statutes, and the ordinances, and the law, and the commandment, which he wrote for you, ye shall observe to do for evermore; and ye shall not fear other gods.”


Therefore, the STATE’s have transformed themselves into gods. (2Corinthians 11:14 “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” The self proclaimed STATE god Does Not observe Godly authority or God’s law as written in the Holy Bible. The STATE god’s oppress men for money, equity, surety by threats, duress, and coercion and force all men to serve and worship them as god. The STATE god created nothing; except confusion. (1Corinthians 14:33) “For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”

Therefore, the STATE god’s have manufactured fiction burdens to bear, which are merely idols of gold and of silver, man-made charges and violations of fiction ordinances and laws, including charges, fines, fees, permits, tax and more manmade laws. (Psalms 135:15) “The idols of the heathen [are] silver and gold, the work of men's hands.” These are used for self enrichment and to maintain a state of submission, vassalage, servitude, worship, chattel, peonage and fear to the STATE as god. Proof! What other Corporation on this planet earth other than a fiction STATE acting as a god operating under de facto statutory power can levy a bond charge on a man as equity surety against his will and then levy imprisonment for non-payment when selling their wares? NONE! The product’s or services of the STATE consist of but are not limited to licenses, permits, fees, fines, charges, levies, or tax, etc.? These are the products and services sold by fiction STATE’s to man, by LEVY, FORCE and not election. It is my sole opinion that this method of conducting business more closely resembles organized crime (RICO) than public safety or public welfare. This is Fraud, and it openly denies the redemption of the Lord, Yehoshua Jesus, the Christ’s, blood payment to the world. Therefore this is blood money which pays for the salaries of judicial employee armies who have conspired with their employer the fiction STATE to force the fiction laws and debts of their STATE employer upon all mankind.

Therefore, the fiction CORPORATE STATE as it currently exists today operates with one main purpose which is to generate dollars for the business STATE and this is accomplished by creating Daily, more and more fiction laws (idols of gold and silver) which are able to Levy: charges, fines, fees, permits, etc. upon the flesh of man which are then converted to gain for the CORPORATION STATE. (1Timothy 6:10) “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” The fiction STATE manufactures laws and declares as crimes those acts which are not crimes in the eyes of God. All of this done so the STATE as a god can continue their domestic military buildup, so that they can hire more and more employee judges, prosecutors, politicians, and police to create and Levy by force the sale of their wares.. (Ezekiel 22:25) “[There is] a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.” (Ezekiel 22:27) “Her princes in the midst thereof [are] like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, [and] to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.” Repent and return to the ways of the Lord. (Isaiah 45:2) “I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:” (Isaiah 59:8) “The way of peace they know not; and [there is] no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.”

Therefore, We, the Peculiar people of God, are commanded to touch not the dead for we are among the living. (Genesis 2:7) “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” compare (John 5:25) “Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.” The Peculiar people of God are forbidden to engage the traditions of the fiction dead PERSONS. (2Corinthians 6:17) “Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you;” we are forbidden to enter discussion with courts of PERSONS or enforcers of the law of PERSONS which reject the Law of God, (Mark: 12:26-27) “And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.” compare (Romans 6:13) “Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.” For clarification, every person is a man, but not every man is a person, and "Man” (homo) is a creation of God; person (persona), a creation of the civil law. Also “Lawful” (law) is a creation of God; fiction of law (legal), a creation of personas. Therefore, civil law (legal) is a beast that hunts men for bounty surety. Civil law is not of the kingdom of God, because what is legal today will be illegal tomorrow and what is illegal today will be legal tomorrow. Legal is a term of the soil a beast and these beasts are constantly changing from one jurisdictional territory to another due to eternal forces for favor or money. What is legal upon the soil of one beast kingdom will illegal upon the soil of another beast kingdom and there are thousands of beast kingdoms upon the earth hunting man for money. Man is not the Lord of the soil! Man does dot have dominion over man. (Jude 1:16) “These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.,” (Romans 2:11) “For there is no respect of persons with God.,” (James 2:9) “But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.,” (Psalms 82:2) How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah., (Ephesians 6:9) “And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.,” (Deuteronomy 1:17) “Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; [but] ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment [is] God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring [it] unto me, and I will hear it.,” (2Chronicles 19:7) “Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do [it]: for [there is] no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.” (1Corinthians 6:5) “I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?” (1Corinthians 6:2) “Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?” It is therefore, commanded that we use our best efforts to remain unyoked from unbelievers who serve secular gods: (2Corinthians 6:14) “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?”

Therefore, WE, The Peculiar People of God give Notice with all due respect, Truth is supreme and “fiction of law” equals “liars, accusers, deceivers.” Fiction of law always assumes and presumes as fact those things which are against the truth in order to obtain those things which it covets and desires. It is therefore forbidden for fiction of law to proceed forward as fact, hiding or denying the claimed Truth thereof, as fiction of law is always against the truth, but it is to have the truth, and truth never needs to be proved. Therefore it is unlawful for form or fiction of law to work a wrong, abuse or disparagement contrary to the truth. All men masked as PERSONS who covet and kill with malice and forethought to obtain objects they desire whether by fiction of law or force, are criminals (extortionists, murderers, revilers, liars, thieves, adulterers, whoremongers, idolaters, worshippers of false god’s) and are condemned under God’s law unless you Repent. With all due respect; you mighty men, you know, might does not make right. Repent now while the truth is still near. I pray that God will have mercy on your soul. (Hosea 10:13) “Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men.,” (John 2:21) “I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.,” (1Corinthians 6:10) “Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” We God’s redeemed peculiar people, therefore renounce the secular kingdoms of the world and come out, (1Corinthians 5:9) “I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.”

Therefore We, the Peculiar People of the kingdom of Christ, kingdom of God enter always by Force and Fraud into the jurisdiction of the dead PERSONS, (Mark 13:11) “But when they shall lead [you], and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.” Therefore no PERSONS acting as a trustee, god or as parens patriae (fiction father) created by fiction of law may Force God’s Peculiar People unto worldly jurisdiction and bondage to the kingdoms of PERSONS. For we have but one Father and dwell in the house of the Lord. (Romans 4: 17) “(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were,” unto the throne of God and redemption of Christ, (Revelation 22:3) “And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him.” As servants of God, we are servants to our master unto righteousness under the law, no longer servants of the curse, which is the law of secular unrighteous man, (Titus 2:9) [Exhort] servants to be obedient unto their own masters, [and] to please [them] well in all [things]; not answering again” other secular god’s, but always the one true God, King and master of creation who leads us out of bondage, (Leviticus 26:13) “I [am] the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright.” God declared our freedom in his covenant promise, (Ezekiel 20:37) “And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant freedom” for the sole benefit and the glory of our Holy Father. (Leviticus 25:55) “For unto me the children of Israel [are] servants; they [are] my servants whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: I [am] the LORD your God.” We are therefore thankful and blessed by God’s righteous law, (Ephesians 3:14) “For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our LORD Jesus Christ, ” and we God’s chosen nation live liberated in deliverance from the jurisdiction of the dead through Christ’s redemption into life by his word ministered to our souls by the Holy Spirit that confesses always the truth, (John 5:24) “He that heareth my word, shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death into life.” No one can grant or convey what he does not own as we the Peculiar People of God are bought and paid for, living souls, and we shall remain always the sole property of our Lord, (Proverbs 22:26-27) “Be not one of them that strike hands, or of them that are sureties for debts. If thou hast nothing to pay, why should he take away thy bed from under thee?” We are the Peculiar People called Isra’el. (Isaiah 44:5) “One shall say, I am the LORD'S; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the LORD, and surname himself by the name of Israel.” The sole property of “Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh,” "I will be" our God who redeemed us by the blood of the Christ, as payment in full who now stands as our surety. (2Peter 2:19) "While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption, for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage."
ALL Men are subject to the Higher law and Authority of God, therefore Men search your heart before you again serve “sin” and sit in Judgment as Persons serving the kingdoms of the dead.

Have mercy, not in your eyes or the eyes of secular man but in the eyes of God who has the power to destroy your soul.

(Matthew 10:28) “And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy
both soul and body in hell.”

•God Calls All Men to Repent and Have Mercy •

Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what [this] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

(Matthew 5:7) “Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.”

(Ephesians 6:8) “Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether [he be] bond or free.”


We, the Peculiar People of the kingdom of God are cognizant that every man at some time in his life will be confronted by God at least once and brought before the Cross and presented a cross road decision for his life (Revelation 3:20) “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” The Cross often appears for many to be an impasse. The question is what road or direction shall YOU take? The answer to this question does not come without much meditation, prayer and guidance from the Holy Spirit. Here is the mystery; chose one path and we save our life as we know it, but enter the impasse of unrighteousness and reap damnation. Chose the path less traveled and we lose our life as we know it, but enter into righteousness and eternal life with God. (Matthew 16:25) “For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.” compare, Luke 9:24, Mark 8:35
We, the Peculiar People of the kingdom of Christ, kingdom of God, Servants Dedicated to the House of Our Sovereign Lord and King, Yehoshua Jesus, the Christ, the First and the Last, Alpha and Omega on the subject of law, affirm in the Presence of the Holy Spirit, Who Bears Witness with the OUR Lawful Assembly by the Authority and Power of Our King, that We are commanded to Glorify and Honor Our Heavenly Father, Who redeemed Us through the blood of His Son, Yehoshua Jesus, the Christ. We Obey the Will of Our King, we Seek His Kingdom and Righteousness on earth, Preserve His ecclesia, exercise Faith by proclamation of his truth, and stand on his Blessings, and Providence, in Order to Secure our Lives, Liberties, and Properties more abundantly as Sons, and Daughters and Stewards and Care Takers for the benefit of Our King; We do solemnly and mutually make this affirmation and enter into the blood covenant of redemption which is the freeing of the slaves from Egypt (Egypt meaning all modern Corvee systems of government) and we are called to combine ourselves together into the Ecclesia known as the kingdom of Christ, kingdom of God, which was established as a government separate and apart, a jurisdiction located upon the earth without boundaries, by the Inspiration of Our King. (1Corinthians 10:26) for "THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S, AND THE FULLNESS THEREOF." I do hereby, therefore, solemnly give Notice to the body of Christ's redeemed Ecclesia ( Matthew 12:48, Mark 3:33-35, Luke 8:21) and all the world which stands separate and apart by covenant as the establishment of the (body) government and kingdom of Christ, kingdom of God that we the peculiar people Rely solely upon the Positive Law of the Holy Scriptures as written in their Original Tongues and translated into the Books of The King James Bible, Authorized Version, Anno Domini, sixteen hundred and eleven, which is the Living Word and the Living Law of God ministered by his Holy Spirit, to Our Hearts, Land, Banner, and courts (Numbers 12:6-8, Psalm 19:7-11, Proverbs 30:5-6, Isaiah 8:19-20, Romans 7:12,14, 2 Timothy 3:16, 2 Peter 1:19-21, 1 John 2:3-6, 1 John 5:2-3, John 14:15). With absolute Reliance upon said Holy Law which is made a part hereof as though fully presented and attached hereto, we promise all due submission and obedience and by which we shall abide under Christ’s kingdom, God’s kingdom and jurisdiction to Further the Righteous Ends aforesaid; and we do extend the same to God's People of like Mind and Heart throughout the earth forever and ever. In the Name of the Father our creator, Yehoshua Jesus, the Christ, our redeemer, and the Holy Spirit, our teacher. Amen and amen.

The spirit of God is purer and more honest than the written word. Please read these thoughts with this in mind. That the Love of the Lord is Stronger much Stronger than the division of any word. Seekers of his Truth.

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Greetings In His name, Jesus, The Christ,
and thank you for giving me the wonderful food which In His Spirit is offered and I take. Beautiful words, and good re-minder to the everlasting soul of true freedom.

I am,
Manuel
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Do you still believe this ain't real?

From doers article (Published: July 22, 2005):

"For example, last Friday, a panel of federal judges -- including John Roberts, nominated for the Supreme Court this week -- upheld Bush's claim to dispose of "enemy combatants" any way he pleases, The Washington Post reports. In a chilling decision, the judges ruled that the Commander's arbitrarily designated "enemies" are nonpersons: Neither the Geneva Conventions nor American military and domestic law apply to such garbage. Bush is now free to subject anyone he likes to his self-concocted "military tribunal" system, a brutal sham that retired top U.S. military officials have denounced as a "kangaroo court" that tyrants around the world will cite in order to hide their oppression under U.S. precedent." [Emphasis added]

Now, to continue with the second part of Black’s Law Dictionary definition of “person”:

Scope and delineation of term is necessary for determining those to whom Fourteenth Amendment of Constitution affords protection since this Amendment expressly applies toperson.”[Underlining added]

non per-son (nan’ per’ sen) n. UNPERSON; specif. one who is officially ignored by the government - New World Dictionary of American English – Third College Edition

Main Entry: non.per.son
Pronunciation: 'nän-'p&r-s[^&]n
Function: noun
Date: circa 1909 : a person who is regarded as nonexistent: as a : UNPERSON b : one having no social or legal status - Merriam-Webster's Collegiate® Dictionary & Thesaurus


Yahuwâh's citizens are nonpersons; the adversary's citizens are persons.

Homo vocabulum est naturae; persona juris civilis--Man is a term of nature (Yahuwâh's creation); person of civil law (the Adversary's creation). Bouvier's Law Dictionary (1914), "Maxim," p. 2136.

Yahuwâh, "Nature's God", is the Creator of man (nonpersons), and so, both He and His Anointed, are not respecters of persons (Matt. 22:16; Act 10:34, etc.). On the other hand, kosmokrator (Strong's #G2888) only has regard for its creations, persons and, in fact, considers Yahuwâh's creation to be "garbage".


fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisra'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional USA.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19
An act done by me against my will is not my act.

Edited by - Oneisraelite on 21 Jan 2006 05:37:39
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Greetings:

Peace be unto the house.

We were reading this somewhere and noticed, once again, something very strange in the wording of Section 9...

"On April 5, 1933, President Roosevelt issued an Executive Order 6260 declaring:
All persons are required to deliver ON OR BEFORE MAY 1, 1933 all GOLD COIN, GOLD BULLION, AND GOLD CERTIFICATES now owned by them to a Federal Reserve Bank, branch or agency, or to any member bank of the Federal Reserve System.
Section 9 of the order reads as follows:
Whosoever willfully violates any provisions of this Executive Order or of these regulations or of any rule, regulation or license issued there under may be fined not more than $10,000, or if a natural person, may be imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both; and any officer, director or agency of any corporation who knowingly participates in any such violation may be punished by a like fine, imprisonment, or both.”"

It would appear that whosoever may only be fined, while a natural person may also be imprisoned for not more than 10 years. Very revealing language we would say. This would indicate, we perceive, that in 1933 there were still two very distinct, and probably relatively large, classes of entities if we, for the moment, ignore the AGENTS of the corporation, who are apparently treated like, if not synonymous with, natural persons.

We can find no definition of natural person in the 1991, sixth edition, Black's Law Dictionary or Bouvier's 1856 Law Dictionary, but did find the following in the latter (Bouvier's).

"The term ancestor is applied to natural persons. The words predecessors and successors, are used in respect to the persons composing a body corporate. See 2 Bl. Com. 209; Bac. Abr. h.t.; Ayl. Pand. 58.

ARTIFICIAL. What is the result of, or relates to, the arts; opposed to natural; thus we say a corporation is an artificial person, in opposition to a natural person. Artificial accession is the uniting one property to another by art, opposed to a simple natural union. 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 503.

Think about marriage, then re-read that last sentence above.

CONVEYANCE, contracts. The transfer of the title to land by one or more persons to another or others. By the term persons is here understood not only natural persons but corporations.

CORPORATION. An aggregate corporation is an ideal body, created by law, composed of individuals united under a common name, the members of which succeed each other, so that the body continues the same, notwithstanding the changes of the individuals who compose it, and which for certain purposes is considered as a natural person.

That last one tells us, by extrapolation, that if a CORPORATION, for certain purposes, may be considered a natural person, then it holds to reason that "for certain purposes a natural person may be considered a CORPORATION."

13. A sole corporation, as its name implies, consists of only one person, to whom and his successors belongs that legal perpetuity, the enjoyment of which is denied to all natural persons. 1 Black Com. 469. Those corporations are not common in the United States. In those states, however, where the religious establishment of the church of England was adopted, when they were colonies, together with the common law on that subject, the minister of the parish was seised of the freehold, as persona ecclesiae, in the same manner as in England; and the right of his successors to the freehold being thus established was not destroyed by the abolition of the regal government, nor can it be divested even by an act of the state legislature. 9 Cranch, 828.
14. A sole corporation cannot take personal property in succession; its corporate capacity of taking property is confined altogether to real estate. 9 Cranch, 43.


43.-Sect. 2. Of the defendants. Sec. 1. Between the original parties. All natural persons are liable to be sued for their tortious [injurious] acts, unconnected with or in disaffirmance of a contract...

We shall divide this next definiton up, signified by a "[pause]", with our interjections.

PERSON. This word is applied to men, women and children, who are called natural persons. In law, man and person are not exactly synonymous terms. Any human being is a man, whether he be a member of society or not, whatever may be the rank he holds, or whatever may be his age, sex, &c. [pause]

The word PERSON "is applied to men, women and children, who are called natural persons". According to Black's sixth edition, only "in general usuage" does the word person ever apply to "a human being (i.e. natural person)". And is there a reason that Black's enclosed natural person in parenthesis; why not just put a comma there as would normally be done? What is a natural persona? Is it a mask we create for ourself as opposed to one that is created for us by colorable law?

A person is a man considered according to the rank he holds in society, with all the rights to which the place he holds entitles him, and the duties which it imposes. 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 137. [pause]

"A person is a man considered according to the rank he holds in society" is what the Scripture refers to as being a respecter of persons. And, watch out for those duties, folks!

2. It is also used to denote a corporation which is an artificial person. 1 Bl. Com. 123; 4 Bing. 669; C. 33 Eng. C. L R. 488; Woodes. Lect. 116; Bac. Us. 57; 1 Mod. 164.
3. But when the word "Persons" is spoken of in legislative acts, natural persons will be intended, unless something appear in the context to show that it applies to artificial persons. 1 Scam. R. 178.
[pause]

Many times this may be merely a definitions section.

4. Natural persons are divided into males, or men; and females or women. Men are capable of all kinds of engagements and functions, unless by reasons applying to particular individuals. Women cannot be appointed to any public office, nor perform any civil functions, except those which the law specially declares them capable of exercising. Civ. Code of Louis. art. 25. [pause]

Which is still true today, ladies, via the EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT, etc.

5. They [persons] are also sometimes divided into free persons and slaves. Freemen are those who have preserved their natural liberty, that is to say, who have the right of doing what is not forbidden by the law. A slave is one who is in the power of a master to whom he belongs. Slaves are sometimes ranked not with persons but things [they are res, as in res-ident] . But sometimes they are considered as persons for example, a negro is in contemplation of law a person, so as to be capable of committing a riot in conjunction with white men. 1 Bay, 358. Vide [namely] Man. [pause]

We are wondering, is this obfuscation? Note at the end of that number 5 it states rather innocuously [harmlessly] Vide, which means namely, Man. Is this definition stating that a Freeman, i.e. one of those...who have preserved their natural liberty, that is to say, who have the right of doing what is not forbidden by the law, is the only person who can truly be called Man? If that is true, we believe it may be that all the rest of that verbiage is, at least partly, for the purpose of clouding the definition, but we could very well be wrong in that assessment.

6. Persons are also divided into citizens, (q.v.) and aliens, (q.v.) when viewed with regard to their political rights. When they are considered in relation to their civil rights, they are living or civilly dead; vide [namely] Civil Death; outlaws; and infamous persons. [pause]

Remember, along with those "civil rights" comes an superabundance of "duties"!
Extra legem positus est civiliter mortuus. One out of the pale of the law, (an outlaw,) is civilly dead.
pale, n. [[ME < MFr pal < L palus, a stake < IE base *pak-, to fasten (as by ramming into the ground) < Gr passalos, a peg, stake L pax, peace]] 2 a fence; enclosure; boundary; restriction: now chiefly figurative [outside the pale of law...] - Webster's 1988 New World Dictionary of American English, Third College Edition, page 972

7. Persons are divided into legitimates and bastards, when examined as to their rights by birth.
8. When viewed in their domestic relations, they are divided into parents and children; husbands and wives; guardians and wards; and masters and servants son, as it is understood in law, see 1 Toull. n. 168; 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 1890, note.


...a sole corporation is one composed of only one natural person.

In closing we note that in Bouvier's 1856 Law Dictionary that the phrase natural person is used, apparently, about eleven times but is never specifically defined, thus we can only surmise that a natural person is not, in legalese[1], a man.

[1] legalese n. the conventional language of legal forms, documents, etc., involving special vocabulary and formulations, often thought of as abstruse and incomprehensible to the layman - Webster's 1988 New World Dictionary of American English, Third College Edition, page 771


fellowcitizen of the commonwealth of Yisra'el,
NOT the man-made, fictional USA.
Ephesians 2:12 & 19
An act done by me against my will is not my act.

Edited by - Oneisraelite on 24 Jan 2006 06:43:20
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